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I love this.... thanks D*

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by bhenge, Oct 17, 2007.

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  1. Oct 18, 2007 #21 of 158
    Ron Barry

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    Agreed.. higher resolution and higher bit rates over SD should always produce a better picture.

    As for saying a thing well D* and E* handle this differently and there are pluses and minuses to both approaches.
     
  2. Oct 18, 2007 #22 of 158
    texaswolf

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    Yeah...Ijust hope CHarlie gets off his butt and does something to get these channels...or at least let us know whats in the works with certain channels...it would put a lot of E* customers at ease.
     
  3. Oct 18, 2007 #23 of 158
    ScoBuck

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    I honestly don't think you will be getting any new channels anytime soon - or why is it so quiet?
     
  4. Oct 18, 2007 #24 of 158
    Ron Barry

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    Look up two posts above for the reason. E* practice is not to pre-announce channels... D* does... Just like Microsoft and IBM. Two different approaches both with pluses and minuses.
     
  5. Oct 18, 2007 #25 of 158
    ScoBuck

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    I guess time will tell.
     
  6. Oct 18, 2007 #26 of 158
    texaswolf

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    and to much time will drive us away
     
  7. Oct 18, 2007 #27 of 158
    James Long

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    :wave: Bye!

    As noted elsewhere, someone else will take your place.
     
  8. Oct 18, 2007 #28 of 158
    davethestalker

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    During a recent 'Charlie Chat", Charlie had said that we [Dish] have every HD channel available. Now that the tides have turned and there are new HD channels available, Charlie needs to step up and add "every channel available" and be quick about it.
     
  9. Oct 18, 2007 #29 of 158
    Stewart Vernon

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    I'm still amused by the DirecTV people who feel the need to try and stir the pot in a Dish forum... instead of enjoying the new channels they have. Maybe those new channels aren't compelling? Otherwise why the time and need to come into Dish forums and stir the pot?

    I have far too much to occupy my time and don't go into the DirecTV forums to stir up trouble.

    In the many years I have been with Dish now... they have never made a big splash pre-announcement about anything that they have ever done. DirecTV has gone the other direction and mass-marketed way in advance of things. If you look at the numbers, both companies have grown at about the same rates... DirecTV having more subscribers because they started before Dish did.

    In the entire time Dish had a big HD lead over DirecTV... I saw nothing to indicate that DirecTV wouldn't eventually have all the same HD as Dish. Now that DirecTV is adding more new channels, I similarly see no reason why Dish will not eventually have them as well.

    Any short-term advantage is really not worth either company getting really excited about.. and certainly isn't worth the effort some folks feel the need to go stir the pot about.

    How about instead of bragging you all go watch your TVs! And we will watch ours. I still have more HD than I can watch in a day even without the new stuff.
     
  10. Oct 18, 2007 #30 of 158
    Richard King

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    Ditto. I am also amused by those Dish people who come here and "threaten" to leave if Dish doesn't add every channel that they want. If they really feel this way they should simply leave, please (quietly). Frankly (don't call me Frank), I'm getting real tired of the crap.
     
  11. Oct 18, 2007 #31 of 158
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    Then maybe you should mod a forum for "tickled pink" dish customers...sorry that those of us are annoyed found a place to talk to other annoyed customers...and since most of us are locked into a contract...we can't just leave....like I said before...i would be content to here E* at least mention what they are working on...and not the silent treatment...so that way i know if i can look forward to see some of my fav shows in HD...next month.....or have to wait 4 months...next year....something...anything. But i have a feeling they don't want to come out and say..we have no clue if we are going to get it or not.
     
  12. Oct 18, 2007 #32 of 158
    Stewart Vernon

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    texaswolf,

    I can understand frustration... but think about it like this. Do you pre-announce all your plans? Do you go to your boss at work every day and tell him your plans for next month? Do you advertise to your neighborhood your plans?

    A company has even more to worry about than you or I do.. and as such the smart companies tend to play things closer to the vest. I have worked for companies that had loose-lips and then wondered why their competition was able to compete with them so well... and I've worked for companies that did not pre-announce anything, and tried to keep the competition in the dark as long as possible.

    There are always spies and rumors... but announcements of an official or semi-official nature from a company representative are a different animal.

    On a personal note, I happen to be ok with Dish not announcing. If they don't announce, then there is nothing to be let down about.. and always a pleasant surprise when you get something.

    It's always nice to get a heads-up, but really... no one ever owes any of us any kind of advance warning or announcement.

    Sure, there is a risk of people panicking and leaving while Dish is quiet... but Dish could take a risk and pre-announce something, miss a date, and then have people mad at that. With silence, any frustration built-up is purely imaginary by customers... whereas announcements can backfire.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2007 #33 of 158
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    If I had a bunch of customers asking about the next move....yes I announce something...I never said I wanted exact dates...if Charlie came on and said "we know a lot of customers are concerned about new HD line up, we are currently in negotiations with Sci fi, FX...ect." I would be fine...because I know they are attempting. That would not give the competition anything seeing as they already have those channels and are working on whats next...while we work on catch up...now maybe not announce channels they dont carry...but the ones they already launched...give your customers something. If you don't set an exact time frame...there will be no let down...just a heads up that they are in the process to catch up...I'm sure they will get them...we all say that....but none of us know for sure...so we wait...and even when D* missed their date...big time....there wasn't a big chunk of people that left...just angry....but they knew still knew it was coming at least...now they are happy....while we wait for ..even a word.
     
  14. Oct 19, 2007 #34 of 158
    Stewart Vernon

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    But how is that kind of announcement any better or different than not saying anything?

    Think about it.

    Saying "we are talking to people... and will have channels soon" or "eventually" is no more valid than saying nothing, because unless and until Dish closes the doors on its company, you have to assume they are considering adding channels and talking to those channel providers.

    For that matter, any kind of "we are talking to NBC/Universal about adding SciFi, USA, etc." statement by Dish can actually harm negotiations.

    Say you are going to bid on an item at eBay... do you tell lots of people you want that item and are going to bid? Or do you keep quiet and hope no one else (or at least not many) people know you want it and try to bid against you?

    In many ways, negotiating contracts is a lot like bidding at an auction. You want the best deal, and so does the seller... and if you tip your hand too soon then you end up paying more or not getting it at all.

    Also, you have to keep in mind... Dish hasn't suddenly changed their way of doing business. If Dish had a history of making grand announcements about future plans and then suddenly became quiet, you might worry.. but because of Dish's longstanding history of silence in these things... I personally might worry more if Dish did suddenly issue a big announcement as it could be taken as a panic announcement.
     
  15. Oct 19, 2007 #35 of 158
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    Bidding war with who? D* has already sealed the deal...it's time for E* to get a deal itself....the cable companies are not going to outbid them...so there is no need this time for a double secret probation hush hush release for these already carried channels on D*...keep hush hush about ones that D* doesn't have sure...but these? At least let your customers know you are trying so we don't assume that you are....i know one day i will turn my tv on and there they will be, and this whole thing will be pointless...but damn it im impatient...lol...and have wanted those channels long before half the other ones we have in HD....and now I have to listen to my buddies with D* brag.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2007 #36 of 158
    richiephx

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    I guess Charlie Ergen must be doing something wrong because he's only a billionaire. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Oct 19, 2007 #37 of 158
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    Too bad the "billionaire" didn't want to part with his money and get his customers MLB again, or NFL ticket, or how about even the CW....thats how the rich get rich...spend as little as possible. If he opened the wallet a little more he could probably bury D* in the HD game, bring on a lot more customers....and continue getting richer.....of course its easy for me to say.
     
  18. Oct 19, 2007 #38 of 158
    James Long

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    Yes it is. You're just some guy on the internet. :D

    Charlie's a guy who has managed not to run his business into the ground for nearly 12 years.
    Once again, I believe that this isn't even a blip on the radar.
     
  19. Oct 19, 2007 #39 of 158
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    true...hey i meant to ask you....do you know the reason why the CW isn't in HD for us? is it a money thing....which would be hard to believe...being a smaller network
     
  20. Oct 19, 2007 #40 of 158
    richiephx

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    Who, based upon most of your comments, must be really unhappy and miserable in your personal life. Tissue? :lol:
     
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