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If you're in FIOS country - why sticking with DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by chefwong, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. Feb 4, 2012 #61 of 119
    Grafixguy

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    You can add me to the FiOS for phone and internet, DirecTV for video. I had the triple play with FiOS for a year. The DVR sucked and there was no HD for local sports channels in NYC when I got it with the exception of YES. A few months later they added SNY but the battle with CVC over MSG and MSG+ HD was the kicker for me.

    When DTV added MSG and MSG+ in HD at the end of 2007 I switched and haven't looked back. In addition to getting all the HD I need, the DVRs are better and the customer service is so far superior that there's no sense in even talking about it.

    Notice I didn't bring up price? I may or may not be paying more...I don't know and I don't care.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2012 #62 of 119
    Sixto

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    I stay with DirecTV because of the HR34 and this place (DBSTalk). It also helps that MLB EI and NFL Sunday Ticket have every game in HD.

    I've had FiOS Voice/Internet, rock solid, perfect.

    When I recently upgraded to FiOS Digital Voice (FDV) ... there were no more FCC line charges for additional lines or wacky taxes ... each line after the 1st line is unlimited for only $9.99/month.

    And more awesomeness ... when I did the FDV upgrade, I also added Extreme HD for just $10 additional per month, and got a 500GB 7232 DVR "Free for Life".

    $99/month for Unlimited Voice, 35/35 Internet, Extreme HD, and 7232 DVR "Free for Life" ... price guaranteed for 2 years ... Perfect.

    But I still love DirecTV ... and just use FiOS TV to play with once in a while, be familiar with the competition, and I now have a backup if the satellite ever goes out or a DVR recording is an issue.

    But the real item is the DirecTV HR34 ... I want to have multiple 4-tuner (at least), 1TB, 3-stream MRV capable, PiP DVRs ... that are fully integrated with the provider, with any-to-any MRV connectivity from every receiver in any room in the home.

    Presently, DirecTV is the only provider on the planet earth with such capability.

    One 5-tuner 1TB box for me. One 5-tuner 1TB box for the wife/kids. Every recording accessible from every TV location in the home. Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2012 #63 of 119
    sigma1914

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    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1354523&highlight=sunday+ticket+playstation
     
  4. Feb 4, 2012 #64 of 119
    jimbo56

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    Wading through some of the posts, I find references to "youtube quality video" to "pretty good" - looks like it's going to be a crapshoot as to whether or not I'm going to be satisfied. My hope is that Sony will be working out some of the problems from the first season. I have a fairly fast internet connection (35/35) so hopefully streaming will not be a problem.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2012 #65 of 119
    jimbo56

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    Considering that I'm basically getting FiOS TV for free, at least for the first year, I'll take my time before dropping DirecTV. My two year commitment with DTV doesn't expire until the end of March, so I'll wait at least until then. I'll definitely drop my movie packages with DTV since they're included with my FiOS TV package. There's a lot to like about DirecTV, that's for sure. I never ever said I was unhappy with them, the FiOS install was based on pricing.

    I don't have the HR34 (from what I've read it sounds pretty sweet) but I'd be willing to bet they'd give me one if I told them I was canceling service.

    BTW, you got even better pricing on FiOS than I did (my DVR is only free for the first year).
     
  6. Feb 4, 2012 #66 of 119
    jimbo56

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    Wow, you must be a salesman's dream:)

    Seriously, although price is not the only factor in test-driving FiOS TV, it IS a big factor. I simply don't have money to burn. When decision-time comes I will take into account quality of programming, equipment and ease-of-use, customer service and pricing. Whichever provider I choose, there will be tradeoffs, I'm sure. But what might be the best fit for you might not be the best fit for me...
     
  7. Feb 4, 2012 #67 of 119
    MrShowtime

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    In my opinion the fios dvr is a steaming pile of crap. I've had fios for 1 1/2 years now (apartment, no dishes here).

    In my opinion, the only benefit to fios tv is the onDemand and being able to see local philly sports. Other than that, dtv all the way
     
  8. Feb 5, 2012 #68 of 119
    jimbo56

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    What model DVR do you have? As a new customer, I was given the latest equipment, model 7232 (whole-home). While it may be the ugliest piece of electronics I've ever seen, it appears to be reasonably functional. And I'm impressed by how quickly my recorded shows are able to be searched/played on the slave receivers - they start almost instantaneously, unlike the DTV boxes which seem to take 5 seconds or so.

    I'm less impressed by the channel guide. Supposedly the img 1.9 software was a big improvement over what was there before, but I vastly prefer the DTV guide. I've seen complaints here about how the DTV guide does not show enough channels or extend enough hours, but the FiOS screen seems so cluttered, almost to the point of being annoying. The DTV guide is about perfect, especially with the new HD GUI.

    Still in the process of evaluating FiOS TV...
     
  9. Feb 5, 2012 #69 of 119
    Grafixguy

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    Okay, that may have a been a bit of a stretch and I am in total agreement on your final point. That's why I love the competition. In my town I can get FiOS, Comcast, Dish or DTV

    My real point is that the cost is quite reasonable for what I have...4 HD DVRs, an HD receiver and one SD receiver. With credits that DTV is always willing to give out, even with Plus HD DVR, HBO and HD Extra my bill is $101.

    With FiOS I'd have to pay $17 for each of those DVRs before I even started paying for the service and Verizon's customer service is impossible to deal with. In short, even if I could save money with FiOS it wouldn't be very much and I'd be giving up way too much for those few bucks I might be saving.
     
  10. Feb 5, 2012 #70 of 119
    MrShowtime

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    motorolla dvr 7216, and an hd box in the bedroom.
     
  11. Feb 5, 2012 #71 of 119
    Drucifer

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    NY Hudson...
    Is there a current FiOS map showing where it is? And where they're going next?
     
  12. Feb 5, 2012 #72 of 119
    spartanstew

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    HERE's the coverage map

    AFAIK, they're not going anywhere next. They've stopped expanding.
     
  13. Feb 5, 2012 #73 of 119
    jimbo56

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    With only two of us in the house, the FiOS whole-home DVR (with an extra slave box) is just fine. Right now, with DirecTV I am paying $116 for 2 HD DVRs, the Plus HD DVR programming package (grandfathered), Showtime, Whole-home DVR, HD Extra and Protection Plan. With FiOS, I'm getting the Ultimate HD Package (includes Showtime, TMC, and Cinemax), one whole-home DVR with a second slave box, 35/35 Internet (which actually performs at 43/35) plus Digital Voice Phone with unlimited domestic calling for $85 per month (including a $30/month credit for 1 year I was given because a rep at a FiOS kiosk changed my installation date without my permission). Previously I had been paying $90/month for FiOS 50/20 Internet (which actually performed at 48/17), and an additional $19 for a VOIP phone line. So I am actually paying Verizon $5/month less than before but getting TV and phone, while only sacrificing 5 mbps Internet download speed. So my savings per month for the first year is $140, and the second is $90, or close to $2800 for the two years. So it's not just a few bucks a month savings. I know I could call DirecTV, threaten to cancel, play CS roulette and get a few bucks off my DTV bill, but is it worth it? Right now, I'd probably say no, but I'm still in the process of evaluating. I'll definately keep both services until my commitment with DTV expires next month, then decide.

    I should also mention that, despite the horror stories I've heard about Verizon CS, my interactions with the CS rep and tech support people have been nothing but positive. The rep was quick to give me the $30/month credit and the tech support people were (surprisingly) extremely knowledgeable. But, just like with any company, one unpleasant interaction can sour me on the whole operation - it just hasn't happened to me with Verizon yet.
     
  14. Feb 5, 2012 #74 of 119
    jimbo56

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    Here in Buffalo there's a big stink with Verizon only expanding FiOS in the suburbs (where I live) and ignoring the inner-city. I think they've asked the state Attorney General to investigate.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2012 #75 of 119
    jimbo56

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    It looks like the 7216 is an older model than the 7232 which I was given. What are your complaints with that particular model? The 7232 seems to work just fine for me.
     
  16. Feb 5, 2012 #76 of 119
    Drucifer

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    Those maps go back to when I was told by a rep I was getting FiOS in Sep '09. The pin is still there and it still not here.

    And there are no pins for Brattleboro, VT and I know it is there.
     
  17. Feb 5, 2012 #77 of 119
    spartanstew

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    Then search for yourself.
     
  18. Feb 5, 2012 #78 of 119
    jimbo56

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    It's not a map, but maybe this will help:
    http://www.fiberexperts.com/fios-availability.html
     
  19. Feb 5, 2012 #79 of 119
    MrShowtime

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    Mainly the response to the remote control and lack of recording space. It can hold like 30-40 hours at the most. Software on it is OK, not a ton of complaints on that end. It seems to get that freeze pixel for like a second every once in a while during sports, but that could just be a broadcast issue. I watch my football on my ota and have never seen a glitch
     
  20. Feb 5, 2012 #80 of 119
    Jive Turkey

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    I got a plenty of those "FIOS is coming to your house soon!" flyers in the mail 3 years ago, but they never arrived (despite being all around me). I would have definitely moved to them for phone and Internet access, so perhaps they would have gotten me to try TV as well. I would have killed for the FIOS Internet because my choices now are brutal. They toyed with me emotions.

    I know no one cares, but I wanted to complain! :lol:
     

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