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I'm tired of DIRECTV's Creative Ways of Digging into my pocket

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Spike, Aug 11, 2013.

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  1. Sep 6, 2013 #121 of 164
    Spike

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    Well I've done my research. And if a person in my viewing area wants any current local programming at all whether it is through Directv, Dish Network, Cable, Uverse, etc., -- plus subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus, and the list could go on, it doesn't take long before the cost of being creative gets you right back up to where a subscription to a single provider is at right now. I really wish this were not the case, but the reality is.. that is where things stand right now. The bottom line is, for me, there is no real inexpensive way to view current programing with locals outside of the antenna on the roof option, and using tivos for DVR's. I may do this later on, but for now, I hate to say this, but, I'm just as well off now with Directv than I would be if I were to make some creative changes. My future cost would be within $10 of where I am at right now per month. And that cost savings would hardly be worth the hassle of the switch. BUMMER!
     
  2. Sep 6, 2013 #122 of 164
    inkahauts

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    And the costs of all those alternatives is going to go up much faster over the next few years than Directv service will. Plus look at how scatter and how many different systems you would have to run.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2013 #123 of 164
    damondlt

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    And ???
     
  4. Sep 7, 2013 #124 of 164
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    A briefer way of saying this -- they charge mirroring fees because they can.
     
  5. Sep 8, 2013 #125 of 164
    Rich

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    Wouldn't you?

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    I would...
     
  7. Sep 9, 2013 #127 of 164
    Tubaman-Z

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    Not knowing what the future will hold, we can look at current prices for a 3 TV streaming/.OTA setup:

    1 year of Amazon Prime - $80 annually (~$6.67/month)
    Netflix streaming only - $8/month
    PlayOn/PlayLater/PlayMark - $70 once (giving you Hulu, YouTube, and a variety of other content)
    Mohu Leaf Antenna - $38 once
    3 Roku 3 boxes - $296 once
    3 Simple.TV boxes with lifetime guide service - $900 once
    Broadband internet - sunk cost (assumed to also be used for other things)

    One time cost: $1304
    Ongoing monthly cost: $14.67

    Presumed current monthly DirecTV cost (obviously YMMV): $120/month
    Time to recover one time cost: 12.4 months

    This assumes that your viewing choices don't dictate specific channels/programming that you can't get through an on-line method (most live sports for example). In my case I keep one D* DVR for the Twins and Big 10 Network, down from 4 DVRs. Is this as convenient as having a single DVR per TV? No. Is it currently more cost effective for my household? Yes.

    While I can't address increased future costs, from my own experience I can state that my broadband provider (DSL via local telco) just upped my speed from 3 Mb to 4 Mb for no additional cost ($50/month) with no data caps.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2013 #128 of 164
    Tubaman-Z

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    My daughter exactly. Roku with Netflix and Amazon Student Prime (which she has anyway for its other benefits) is how she watches what she wants. She is unlikely to ever subscribe to pay TV (no interest in sports).
     
  9. inkahauts

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    Not knowing what the future will hold, we can look at current prices for a 3 TV streaming/.OTA setup:

    1 year of Amazon Prime - $80 annually (~$6.67/month)
    Netflix streaming only - $8/month
    PlayOn/PlayLater/PlayMark - $70 once (giving you Hulu, YouTube, and a variety of other content)
    Mohu Leaf Antenna - $38 once
    3 Roku 3 boxes - $296 once
    3 Simple.TV boxes with lifetime guide service - $900 once
    Broadband internet - sunk cost (assumed to also be used for other things)

    One time cost: $1304
    Ongoing monthly cost: $14.67

    Presumed current monthly DirecTV cost (obviously YMMV): $120/month
    Time to recover one time cost: 12.4 months

    This assumes that your viewing choices don't dictate specific channels/programming that you can't get through an on-line method (most live sports for example). In my case I keep one D* DVR for the Twins and Big 10 Network, down from 4 DVRs. Is this as convenient as having a single DVR per TV? No. Is it currently more cost effective for my household? Yes.

    While I can't address increased future costs, from my own experience I can state that my broadband provider (DSL via local telco) just upped my speed from 3 Mb to 4 Mb for no additional cost ($50/month) with no data caps.


    Lets look at Netflix alone. They are making hardly any money and haven't raised their rates in ages, yet they have recently signed multiple contracts worth billions more than they where paying before. Either they need another hundred million people to sign up or their rates will increase significantly for streaming very soon. Not by a dollar or two, but by double, triple, maybe even quadruple or more IMHO. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with A tiered approach for streaming soon. However, unless their contracts are based on how many of each companies shows are actually streamed, that wont do it.There's just no other way for the p&l to work.

    Now start thinking about all those companies having to do the same thing because they have all bee signing and will be signing new deals. And Hulu will start charging for more content I bet since they didn't get sold.


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  10. Tubaman-Z

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    As I said, I was addressing only the current state of costs. Let's use your worst case example of Netflix going up by 4x (to $32/month) and assume that was the rate today.

    One time cost: $1304
    Ongoing monthly cost: $38.67

    Presumed current monthly DirecTV cost (obviously YMMV): $120/month
    Time to recover one time cost: 16 months (3.6 months longer)

    It all depends on your viewing needs/desires. If what you want to view can be satisfied through on-line content (perhaps paired with OTA), I think it will be some time before those costs (incl. content costs and broadband access) meet or exceed current pay TV models, specifically DirecTV. FWIW - I don't plan to drop DirecTV entirely anytime in the near future due to my own desire for live sports coverage. And other than cost I am very satisfied with DirecTV. I have cut back to the Choice package with no premiums and dropped a number of DVRs from my account. Choices and options are good in the way that they can drive market competition.
     
  11. wingrider01

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    does you 38.,57 per month cost include the monthly re-occurring for your internet provider? What will happen when they start enforcing caps like numerous providers already had. provider here enforces a 250 gb cap for 30/2 and a 600 gb cap for 100/5
     
  12. JeffBowser

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    It is entertaining to read all these cost analysis, but see very few people consider to analyze simply watching less TV, period. Any real long term costs savings is going to come from simply changing your thinking about TV altogether.

    *yes, I realize this isn't the forum for that attitude :rotfl:
     
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  13. Rich

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    You, me and any sane company would.

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  14. Tubaman-Z

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    In my original post on this subject (yesterday - 4 posts up from yours) I stated: "Broadband internet - sunk cost (assumed to also be used for other things)"

    If/when broadband providers start to enforce caps (currently my DSL through my local telco has no cap) that has the possibility of changing the equation. I don't typically plan much for possible future changes of this nature (lumping pay television and internet costs in with utilities such as gas, electric, water, etc) - I focus on the present cost of the bill and what I can do to reduce it. Others may well choose to take a different view. I don't see a possible future cap as a reason to not extract as much as I can now for a lower cost.
     
  15. Tubaman-Z

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    +1 - Earlier in this thread someone mentioned their "grand plan" to reduce pay television costs - a plan that was vetoed by his larger household. I'd probably pursue a similar plan except that the rest of my household would also veto it. Free or one-time cost TV (OTA, PlayOn, Roku w/out NetFlix, Amazon, or Hulu+), reading, volunteering, exercise - there are lots of ways to consume less pay television.
     
  16. Rich

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    I guess that was me. My wife stays with a recently widowed friend once a week, so I was alone watching what I wanted to yesterday. First I watched the previous night's Giants' football game. Then, I switched to NetFlix and stayed on it until the Yankees' game had been recording for a couple hours. That's about what I do each day (aside from the football game). I've got 12 active HRs and a monthly bill over $200 and I simply don't watch D* all that much. I spend more time on this forum than I do (willingly) on D*.

    Rich
     
  17. Tubaman-Z

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    Yep - it was you. I remember the Jets avatar. :)
     
  18. Rich

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    That avatar will surely be gone Friday morning. I haven't seen a much more pitiful game than last week's Jets' game. I'll leave it up until they lose. I've been a Jets' fan since their inception and...well you know.

    Rich
     
  19. peds48

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    It was about <2 that they had the Netflix "scandal" when they raised their rates.....
     
  20. PrinceLH

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    They'll wait until they reach a critical mass and the price of streaming will go through the roof. They just haven't got there yet and you can bet Netflix and the same ilk will just realign what people are paying for cable or satellite. We are talking maximum profits here. Nobody goes into business to leave money on the table.
     
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