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Instructions for Adding the 61.5 - REVISED 05/04

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by larrystotler, May 1, 2005.

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  1. May 3, 2005 #121 of 226
    socceteer

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    Larry ...Thanks for the detail information.

    I do have a simple question

    Do you happen to know which direction and how angle does the dish have to point from the west cost...? for the 61.5
     
  2. May 3, 2005 #122 of 226
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    Anyone know why my 921 won't hold the SW21 4-sat config through a reboot? I've got 119, 110, and 105(KU) working fine through a SW64, and have added 61.5 using sw21's. It works great until I have to reboot, then, if rebooted while the sw21 is tuned to the 61.5 sattelite, it loses all the sats. If it reboots while tuned to the sw64 side of the sw21, it will come back up with only seeing the 3 sats connected to the sw64. It works perfect after a switch test but with the need to reboot at least once a day due to lockups and other bugs, this is not ideal. Especially if they are still forcing a reboot overnight, as this morning it was locked up on black screen.
     
  3. May 3, 2005 #123 of 226
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    El Dorado...
    For Morgan Hill zip code 95037 the Azimuth is 93 and the elevation is 15.

    ..Doyle
     
  4. May 3, 2005 #124 of 226
    DoyleS

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    Larry, How about a couple quick comments about the extra steps using a DP Twin? I assumed it was just a matter of adjusting the azimuth but am gathering that there is more to it than that based on your comments. There aren't alot of DP Duals on ebay. Just mostly Twins.

    ..Doyle
     
  5. May 3, 2005 #125 of 226
    SummitAdvantageRetailer

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    Hi guys. Will the following work?

    SuperDISH 105/110/119 or SuperDISH 110/119/121 plus Dish 300/500 with DP Dual LNBF for 61.5 mated together with a DP34 and a DP21.

    So, the DP34 switch that takes the 105/110/119 or 110/119/121 from the SuperDISH can be mated with a 61.5 signal by a DP21 switch after the DP34, right? In other words, Port 1 of the DP34's output can be combined with the DP21 switch for the 61.5 to allow 4 satellite tuning without the need for DPP44 switch, right?

    We've always thought that 4 satellite signals need a 4xX switch but if this DP34 and DP21 combo can work, that'd be great for our E* customers that want to add V*.
     
  6. May 3, 2005 #126 of 226
    DoyleS

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    Summitxxx, That is the way Larry explained it. The output of port 1 on the DP34 goes to one of the inputs on the DP 21 while the other DP21 input is fed with one of the outputs from the DP Dual that is on the 61.5 dish. If a 2nd HD connection is needed you would repeat with another DP21 on the 2nd DP34 port. Output of the DP21 obviously goes to the HD receiver and the other DP34 ports feed the non HD receivers.

    ..Doyle
     
  7. May 3, 2005 #127 of 226
    larrystotler

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    I'll start working on a FAQ for that. Give me a day or so.....
     
  8. May 3, 2005 #128 of 226
    SummitAdvantageRetailer

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    Thanks for the clarification. If we want all 4 ports on the DP34 to combine with another satellite (like the 61.5), then we need 4 DP21 switches? Of course, I see now why we haven't done this method as the cost of 1 DP34 switch + 4 DP21 switches ~= 1 DPP44 switch. But this is a good compromise to get one or two of the receivers to see 4 signals. Thanks! Do correct me if my conclusions are wrong here. :)
     
  9. May 3, 2005 #129 of 226
    larrystotler

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    Please note that if you do a locals dish install, that you HAVE to hook ALL receivers to the 61.5 or you will get a chargeback on a QC.
     
  10. May 4, 2005 #130 of 226
    gunawo

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    Is it true that I must use a DPP Separator with a DPP44 in order to make it work on a 921 Receiver???

    Jim
     
  11. May 4, 2005 #131 of 226
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    The separator allows you to run just one cable from the switch to the 921 and split it there, as opposed to running two cables. The separator requires use of DishPro Plus equipment, such as the DPP44. It won't work with a DP34, for example.

    If a picture is worth a thousand words, check this one out: http://www.satelliteone.com/dish/support/dpplus/DISH_Pro_Plus_44_Switch_A.pdf
     
  12. May 4, 2005 #132 of 226
    David_Levin

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    Yes, that does seem to be the case (with the current software). Doesn't seem to like two cable runs from two DPP44 ports.
     
  13. May 4, 2005 #133 of 226
    Sailor

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    Wow, just had the Dish Installer out so he could put another dish up to get 61.5 for the $99 special. What an ordeal.

    Background: The original install was for two refurbed 301's and a 921 through a DP34, with the dish bolted to my brick chimney. This was not done through Dish directly, but through a retailer. The actual install did a beatufil job of wiring and everything is in one place in my attic with easy access.

    So, to get the Voom channels, I called Dish direct who sent out their install team of two guys. I wanted the second dish done the same way as the original install and the guys that showed up said they couldn't bolt the dish to the chimney, that they could only do it to the roof or fascia boards. I told em to go home, called Dish and they credited the $99 to my account and made sure the Voom programming charge was removed.

    My question at this point: If I go to my original retailer, and have the original installer do all the work (mounting to the chimney), and pay dish the $99, will they pay the retailer for the full install?
     
  14. May 4, 2005 #134 of 226
    Mark Lamutt

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    David - where did you get this idea? That's the way I have mine setup at the moment.
     
  15. May 4, 2005 #135 of 226
    Mark Lamutt

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    I believe the $99 deal is only through Dish, so if you choose to have your installer come out and do it, you'll end up paying him whatever he charges for the work. Almost certainly much more expensive than $99, though.
     
  16. May 4, 2005 #136 of 226
    socceteer

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    Thank you
     
  17. May 4, 2005 #137 of 226
    mkpolley

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    new 61.5 dish installed today,i ordered it may1st,so pretty quick turnaround.
    installer got here about 9am,mounting of dish was fine,good signal,but he got his wires,or cables crossed at least 3 times,switched out about 3 switches,finally got it right about 11:30am.
    i called dish talked to csr,added the voom channels right away,but could not access them,even though there were white in my guide,switched me to technical support,i was on hold,decided to do a soft re-boot while i waited,all the voom channels work fine now,and look great after the re-boot.
    i also asked the csr about if i qualify for cbshd,he said hold on,waited about 5 minutes,told me yes, cbshd out of newyork(no charge).
    so all and all went ok,install and dish completely free,one of my locals is on 61.5,i had to add local channels for free dish and install,i will cancel the locals next month.
    anyone know,if i cancel my locals,do they cancel cbshd also? thanks :) :)
     
  18. May 4, 2005 #138 of 226
    Mark Lamutt

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    Yes, if you cancel your locals, you will lose CBS-HD as well.
     
  19. May 4, 2005 #139 of 226
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    I wonder why you have no charge. They charge me $1.50/mo for that channel. It is CBS-HD west (L.A.), and I subscribe to San Francsco locals. Anyone know why I get charged and mkpolley doesn't?
     
  20. May 4, 2005 #140 of 226
    Mark Lamutt

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    I don't get charged for mine either, and never have. I think it's a waivers issue.
     
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