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International Cricket 2012-13

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by satexplorer, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. Dec 2, 2012 #381 of 513
    rwmair

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    Is an Xbox the only way to get ESPN3 on the TV without hooking up an actual computer?

    Our ISP supports ESPN3, and I can play it on my laptop, but the WatchESPN app for iPod/iPad requires our TV provider's authorization, and DirecTV apparently doesn't provide this. Technically this is for ESPN/ESPN2 access on the mobile device, but I don't need that.... just ESPN3, but this technicality takes out the ability for me to watch ESPN3 on the mobile devices (which I can hook-up very easily to the TV).

    More annoyances..... so glad all this technology has enhanced my cricket watching experience vs 5 years ago!!! High-quality satellite TV signal with DVR capability and no buffering delays or bluriness or uncertainty over whether the video stream will actually play or not - so old school. Ha Ha Ha.....
     
  2. Dec 2, 2012 #382 of 513
    satexplorer

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    You only need a VGA cable that support the pin port from your pc to tv PC pin socket or PC pin port to your TV's S-Video socket.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2012 #383 of 513
    saisport

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    Or if u have newer laptop it may also have HDMI port which will ease your life little
     
  4. Dec 3, 2012 #384 of 513
    rwmair

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    No, its much more difficult for me than that.

    I have a MacBook Pro with MiniDisplayPort only, and my preferred TV is a 40" HDTV.

    I got a MDP-HDMI adapter, which allows me to send the PC signal to TV fairly easily. But it doesn't send the audio, so I have to use an audio cable from the PC to a speaker system (because the TV wont take it because it thinks the audio is coming in the HDMI connection!) Also, the MBP laptop display is smaller than the HDTV screen size, so even on "full display" mode of video playback, the picture only fills ~ 2/3 of the HDTV screen. The solution to this is close the laptop - so its own screen goes to sleep and the TV becomes the primary display. But this puts the computer to sleep, so to wake it up, I need to borrow a mouse and keyboard from the MacMini upstairs. Finally with all this working, and video playing in full-screen mode, the youtube icons from the desktop display would still fill the corners of the TV screen. And the Firefox browser on the MBP is slow enough with other overhead that streaming of the live-event was unwatchable (given my crap DSL internet connection)

    Previously, I used a MDP-VGA adapter from Apple, and then plugged that into a PC-TV converter box which enabled me to send analog video signal via S-video or yellow composite video into an analog TV or my DVD recorder. The picture was pretty crappy (colors messed up and distortion) which was why I switched to all-digital method as soon as I got the HDTV. But at least this method let me record on DVD-R to watch later.

    By contrast, connecting the iPod or iPad to the Apple 30-pin-HDMI adapter is painless, and the full-screen video display from the iPod/iPad immediately fills the HDTV screen without any additional clutter of effort on my part. Either device streams the video from willow.com or youtube.com much better than the MacBookPro could from youtube.com (although still far from flawlessly when its a live event). And the iPod/iPad can sit quietly on the shelf behind the TV without taking up a load of extra space - and I can work on the laptop while the cricket is on, if need be. (The only downside, as noted above, is that many of the replays at youtube.com/willow won't play on a mobile device!) Its much much less of a project - tho still more work than simply turning on the TV and DirecTV receiver.

    Fortunately, there's little on ESPN3 that seriously interests me at this point - being a test match guy (and not a Bangladesh test-match guy) - but who knows when that will change, so its good to know how its done. I wouldn't be sad if EPSN3 took over test matches from Willow!
     
  5. Dec 3, 2012 #385 of 513
    bharath_das

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    Go with iPad & Apple TV and use air play to stream it on your tv if you have Comcast Internet. It will allow you to stream ESPN3 through watch espn apps from your iPad if you have Comcast Internet.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2012 #386 of 513
    saisport

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    I was watching neo cricket recording from yesterday of India v England and somehow I feel that paying $15 bucks extra seems to paying off as in full telecast yesterday first season had 2 commercial second session had 1 and last session had 3 so total of 6
     
  7. Dec 6, 2012 #387 of 513
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    yes, neo cricket better than willow cricket. But a question, How both parties got the rights simultaneously to telecast in USA?
     
  8. Dec 6, 2012 #388 of 513
    crabtrp

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    I find neo's pq to be less than willow's, and willow's is bad.

    I turn the sound off and listen to test match special on the bbc, most enjoyable.

    Almost as enjoyable as another Cook century. :lol:
     
  9. Dec 6, 2012 #389 of 513
    saisport

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    both parties does not have rights it is Dish network who is flipping the switch if you notice neo's telecast is without either of their logo's on top right
     
  10. Dec 7, 2012 #390 of 513
    satroy

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    why NEO does noy show WI-Bang anymore?
     
  11. Dec 7, 2012 #391 of 513
    rwmair

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    Kind of wish I had DISH right now to see how this is playing out!

    So, DISH must be getting a direct feed from India then, circumventing Willow's rights to the US market. Given how litigious Willow have been in the past to individuals and other corporations, this seems very surprising. (I'm told ATN in Canada has stopped showing all Willow-sourced matches, so no more live or new matches from Aus/Eng/RSA/Ind up there!) Maybe Willow are tolerating DISH doing this because subscriptions to their Willow Channel thru DISH are crucial to their business in the US?

    This seems almost like a return to the pre-2005 situation. Well - enjoy, all you folks with "Neo" on DISH. (Wonder if this takes effect on Comcast as well?? Do they get their feed from DISH, or separately?)
     
  12. Dec 7, 2012 #392 of 513
    rwmair

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    Not so sure about that actually.

    While the Neo Sports America webpage has not been updated since IPL 2012, (http://www.neosports.tv/America/index.aspx) it seems their TV schedule page is up to date:

    http://www.neosports.tv/CricketAmericaScheduleList.aspx

    It lists the India-England test matches being televised. (A Bang-WI T20 makes it into the schedule in a few days because it doesn't clash with a test match)

    So, are Willow's rights for Indian home matches into the US not exclusive?

    Given NEO had lost all Indian rights to all Indian home matches - are they still providing their own coverage just for the US market, or sending the Star Cricket coverage to their US channel? (ie, is exactly the same thing being shown on Neo and Willow, other than channel logoes on the screen?)
     
  13. Dec 7, 2012 #393 of 513
    satroy

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    There are lot of crickets overlap broadcast via willow for this winter. I am thinking to buy willow stream. I have willow cricket tv channel but only one feed is shown. Do anyone think I should buy willow stream? I am asking because once I subscribed to willow stream is it possible to unsubscribe? or are they so bad you never will be able to unsubscribe?
     
  14. Dec 7, 2012 #394 of 513
    rwmair

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    I unsubscribed once 18 months ago. It took 3 emails and they got ****ty with me, but eventually it was done. That's why it took so long for me to try them again. Their website now says unsubscribing can be done at anytime - you'll just be charged $5 when you do it. I'm OK with that - that's standard behavior by DirecTV, etc. If Willow ever do refuse, you can dispute the charge with your credit card company - and they always side with you.

    I think there is value - esp if you have a high-speed internet service. Its easy to choose which match out of multiple live feeds you want. At its best, the PQ is pretty good for streaming, and much better than a DirecTV SD channel looks on my HDTV. It might only by 720p HD, but it was pretty clear.

    The downside is loss of all DVR functionality - but that's not really an issue if its allowing you to see things that the TV channel is not carrying. Presumably you'd still use the TV channel on DISH or DirecTV if that is carrying what you want to see.

    For mobility purposes - you can watch on your phone or iPad at anytime. If there is no live match on, you at least get the TV channel streamed to your device. Full-day replays usually follow on the TV channel soon after live coverage, so it you miss the live coverage because its the middle of the night, etc, there's a chance to catch up. Only issue I've had is that many of the replays available on youtube (as opposed to replays the TV channel may be showing "live") do not play on a mobile device, but only on a fully-fledged PC.
     
  15. Dec 8, 2012 #395 of 513
    satroy

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    is it only 14.99 per month for multiple live feeds?
     
  16. Dec 8, 2012 #396 of 513
    rwmair

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    Yes.

    I've had Aus v RSA and Ind v Eng tests available to me at the same time - switched between them once in a lunch or tea break of one game. In some cases, an Indian domestic competition match has been available too.
     
  17. Dec 8, 2012 #397 of 513
    satroy

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    I just bought the live streaming. Now how do you watch via you tube in Xbox or Apple TV?
    What is the best option to watch the stream on HD TV?
     
  18. Dec 8, 2012 #398 of 513
    satroy

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    I am watching recording on iphone 5 with apple tv air play to HD TV. The picture quality is very poor
     
  19. Dec 8, 2012 #399 of 513
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    Tried with iPAD and still picture quality is poor. When I play ESPN through iPAD airplay it is much better than willow stream. Also willow TV cricket channel is much better than stream, I have 50 Mbps internet access. Are you guys have the same poor picture issue of willow stream?
     
  20. Dec 8, 2012 #400 of 513
    rwmair

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    I wrote about the best ways to do this in my long post back on page 15 of this thread.

    If you use m.willow.tv, the picture quality is not great. The site must detect the type of device. If its an iPod/iPhone, the picture quality is very low. iPad is better, but still not as good as youtube.

    Better quality picture is available at m.youtube.com (or with the iPad, you can also use www.youtube.com). You have to follow the instructions on the willow website to link a youtube/google account and your willow account. Its a bit convoluted, but worked for me without any hiccup. On the laptop, I was told the youtube version was 720p.

    Don't use the youtube app on the iPhone/iPad or on your TV (if it has one). You can't access live feeds with these apps, even tho you can log into the same youtube account you use in the web browser.

    I don't have AppleTV - I just use a 30-pin-connector to HDMI adapter to put the picture from the iPad/iPod onto the TV. When I connect the iPod, I'm told the picture is 720p on the TV, for the iPad, its 1080p, although I think that's just the TV detecting the device, not a reflection of the actual video quality.
     

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