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Iran Leader: Israel Will Be Annihilated

Discussion in 'The OT' started by tomcrown1, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. Tom in TX

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    Quote of the Day!

    I don't know that the sun will come up tomorrow, but it's a pretty good bet that it will!
    I am thankful thoughts like yours are not very popular, for if they were, and we let all enemies of the U.S. get as many nukes as they want, we are all going to die!
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  2. AllieVi

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    What's your concern? Won't the good among us then be in Heaven? I don't see the downside? :shrug:

    I can, of course, understand the concern of those who have doubts about where they'll be spending eternity...
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

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    What if terrorists in Pakistan, for instance, steal nuclear material from India or Britain or France?

    I also notice you left off Pakistan, who supposedly does harbor terrorists... but we aren't worried about them being a danger?

    What is the criteria by which we determine who is dangerous and who isn't?

    We say Iran is dangerous because their leader threatened Israel... Well, didn't North Korea threaten us several years ago and they already have nuclear weapons... so why is Iran more dangerous?

    Not only is there hyprocisy, but we aren't even consistent about our message of nuclear weapons.
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

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    Well, technically the sun doesn't "come up"... the earth orbits the sun and the earth rotates as well, so the sun is pretty much in the same place relative to earth... we are moving. It is all a matter of perspective!

    Just like nuclear weapons... Countries that have them feel "safe" for some reason... and ones who don't have them feel unsafe because countries like us are threatening them and pushing them towards our form of government and personal views.

    Why you equate the relative certainty of the earth's rotation and sun-orbit with the danger of Iran is beyond me.

    I am sad that thoughts like yours are popular, because it is why we have a bunch of young kids dying over in Iraq today :(
     
  5. Halfsek

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    Oh. My. God!

    Are you willing to explain away everything?

    Look, either Iran will be a danger or not. The world pretty much believes they will, you don't.
    What do you suggest is done about it?
     
  6. olgeezer

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    Outside of Iran and this administration, who believes that Iran is within 10 years of a nuclear weapon? Doesn't North Korea have one. Are we picking on the wrong guy? What about France? There is someone we can pick on.:D
     
  7. missileman

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    I guess he wants to wait around until a few million Jews and Americans are dead....
     
  8. tomcrown1

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    North Korea declares "we may launch a pre-emptive strike against the USA".

    Yea lets attack Korea after all they did proclaim war on the US :mad:
     
  9. AllieVi

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    In another post, you also asked, "What should be done?." I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

    First, I'd expect to see widespread agreement that there's a problem. Believe it or not, not everyone perceives an immediate crisis with Iran. A blustery current President is just that, nothing more. No one believes Iran will be able to create weaponry any time soon, if ever.

    Those of us who don't perceive a crisis scratch our heads and wonder why something has to be done. I think our leaders are war-mongering, and I'm not buying it. I'm not alone in not trusting their judgment. That's a sad reality.
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    When you say "the world" and "pretty much believes"... who are you talking about?

    I mean, you have talked to everyone in the world in order to know this? Somehow I doubt it.

    Why do you want so much to kill other people who do not believe as you do? And why do you not see this as the same behavior you claim is wrong in Iran and other countries in the middle east?
     
  11. Bogy

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    Why would terrorists have to steal nuclear material from Pakistan? They were willing to sell knowledge and material, and yet, they are our friends, and are not a nation we worry about having nukes. Because they have promised they won't do it again.
     
  12. Halfsek

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    The UN and the EU. That's close enough for me.
    Are you unaware that the EU does not want Iran to get nukes?
    If this were such a non issue as you and others claim, then the only person talking about it would be Bush... but alas, he isn't the only one.

    Please quote or refer to a post where I said to kill people who don't believe as I do; or even where it might be inferred.

    But since you won't, I'll repeat myself. Bombing innocent civilians, even if Iran nukes Israel won't be done and shouldn't be done. But targeted strikes on Iranian military targets should be an option.
     
  13. missileman

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    Rather than speaking to the facts, these people want to play the "Yes, but...." game.
     
  14. jonstad

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    Well, talk about a marriage of convenience!

    Halfsek thinks the UN and EU are on the right track!:lol:

    And of course they ARE on the right track. Neither the UN nor EU has suggested military intervention as the next option, or as any option at all, should they not be able to dissuade Iran from the path to nuclear weapons. It is only the US that seems to think bombing, invading and occupying solves anything.

    The poop is Tony Blair has already informed Bush that Great Britain will not be a partner in any excursion into Iran. This time the "coalition of the willing" will be greately reduced. We'll be lucky if we can beg, buy or cajole a few nations like Moldovia or Trinidad/Tobago to send us a surplus jeep or box of band-aids. Actual combat troops? Forget it!

    Again, the ONLY reason to even infer Iran WOULD use their nuke(s) against Israel is big talk bravado rhetoric by Iran. But even then, they have never indicated they actually plan to attack Israel either with nuclear or conventional weapons. If there's concrete evidence to the contrary, god damn it, let's see it!

    Once again BTW, no one WANTS Iran to have nuclear weapons. Not the UN, not the EU, not George Bush, not you, and not me! Some of us are so SANE that we don't think anyone should have nuclear weapons!

    But, let me ask you this. If it meant Iran NOT getting nuclear weapons, you know, and saving all those millions of Jews and Americans, would you at least be willing to consider total WORLD disarmament of nuclear weapons? And if not, what is your justification that Iran, or any other nation, should not want them? You can say Iran's leaders are crazy. But many believe George Bush is crazy, including many Americans.

    The US has literally thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons of all sizes and shapes, stationed all over the world poised on all manner of delivery systems. What is the purpose of this arsenal? Are they REALLY only for defense? And if so, how does that work exactly? And if they're NOT only for defense, what other purpose could they serve? Would we use them to threaten other nations? Would we use them against other nations? Nations that have no nuclear weapons of their own?

    These are the questions other nations, including Iran, ask themselves. And then they ask themselves if the US has thousands or nuclear weapons and can deliver them anywhere in the world, why can't they have nuclear weapons too?
     
  15. Halfsek

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    Down boy. I was just pointing out that preventing Iran isn't some GWB unilateral move.
    As to what the EU has not said regarding their intentions, you're only assuming.
     
  16. jonstad

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    What are the "facts"?

    Iran appears to be working towards building nuclear weapons and they don't like Israel.

    Those are the only "facts". Everything else is wild speculation!
     
  17. Stewart Vernon

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    Ok, so just who do you think will be inside of those buildings you are prepared to bomb in Iran?

    And how can they be guilty of having nuclear weapons that they don't yet have? And how can they be guilty of launching things when they haven't launched?

    Yet you want to go bomb their country, and say it is for the good of all and will protect us... just how are we in danger right now from Iran's nuclear weapons that don't exist?
     
  18. Halfsek

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    Technicians working on nuclear weapons...

    If I said they already have nukes then I misspoke.
    Well, I didn't say to bomb them tomorrow. My point is that as an option it should not be discounted.

    We could play the waiting game as you desire. Then again, we could look at history (and the present) and see how much mayhem and muder has been committed in name of God. And add to that Iran is run by religious zealots and the current president has stated that he has been appointed by God. Whew! Lots of adding. Okay, next, he has threatened to destory another country.

    But, we could wait. I suppose. It'll be easier. I mean once they put a gun to our heads then at least we can make a decision without having to second guess.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    OK... wait... so what about the Holy Wars? Remember those? Where Christians killed Muslims in the name of God? And that guy Jim Jones who took a bunch of people down to Guyana and had them drink the "special" Kool-Aid?

    There are religious zealots everywhere if you keep your eyes open. Christians have been just as guilty as anyone else in that regard.
     
  20. Halfsek

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    Exactly my point, HDMe. I didn't specifically say which God, I just said, "in the name of God." I then pointed out that the leadership of Iran are fanatical religious zealots and the president thinks he's an apointee of God.

    What part of that are you disagreeing with?
     
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