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Iran Leader: Israel Will Be Annihilated

Discussion in 'The OT' started by tomcrown1, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. olgeezer

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    "penised" I think the word is peckerhead. Maybe Nick could enlighten us. Do you think if Iran were a threat to Israel, that Israel wouldn't promptly kick Iran's butt?
     
  2. Halfsek

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    Israel is being held back by the US.
    And for Israel to gear up and go to war is a huge negative effect on it's economy and world opinion.

    On the other note... I suppose you could say, "the small peckerhead leader of Iran," but that wouldn't get across the idea that he's trying to compensate for his possible.... shortness.
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

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    Ok... wait...

    So, if Iran threatens Israel and Israel retaliates to that threat... the world would think poorly of them... BUT if the US responded to a threat against Israel, the world would be our friend?

    :confused:
     
  4. pjmrt

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    and much of that is world opinion, which they know the US will bow to at some point. They are showing extreme restraint. Plus they are hoping to reap the reward of anti-missile technology to blast the one Iranian nuke when it comes their way, over arab soil - killing two birds with one so to speak. :D
     
  5. Halfsek

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    Oh, wouldn't that just be some justice, pjmrt? And just you wait. Whichever arab country gets the fallout of an Iranian nuke intercepted by an Israeli anti missle will of course scream at Israel.
    I mean, the Israeli anti missle missle would have illegally entered soverign Arab airspace.

    HDMe. Of course the world will comdemn Israel if they attack Iran now. It's not as if Iran has actually attacked Israel. It's just the blustering of a weak leader... right?

    Hell, you're already against the consideration of a US strike on Iran which could prevent a regional nuclear war.
     
  6. Stewart Vernon

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    You completely ignored the point of my post.

    Why do you think it would be OK for the US to take a pre-emptive strike if you don't think it would be OK for Israel to do so?

    That makes absolutely no sense.
     
  7. Halfsek

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    Ugh.
    I never said that one was okay and the other wasn't. I was listing what I felt were repercussions.
    Please comment to what I type, not to what you think I'm saying. If you're unsure, please ask.

    What makes abosultely no sense is the fact that you can't seem to read the words in front of you.
    I never said, nor did I suggest that:
    Where do you get this stuff?
     
  8. Tom in TX

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    And who ever said this??? I agree, you are confused!
    Tom in TX
     
  9. Halfsek

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    Meanwhile, back on planet LSD:

    Vice chairpersons of what you ask?

    Oh, the UN disarmament commission.

    Just. Wow.

    Holy crap! They're just starting a 3 year talking campaign. Don't you just all feel so much safer? And they're so proud of themselves!
    Build on the momentum of.... agreeing on an agenda.
    Which, of course, is exactly what they're hoping will happen. "GW? You there? You want to take care of a problem for us? You'll have to take the heat, too.
    Look outside the box.
    Right.

    I'll just stop right there. If anyone actually thinks the UN is capable of doing anything other than patting eachother's backs and eating good food and having "conferences," you're really living in a dream world.

    http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2006/dc3017.doc.htm
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    All I can do is hope that the war-mongering views by some in this thread are not the majority and do not influence our government such that we invade yet another country under the guise of "defense".

    With friends like US who needs enemies?
     
  11. jonstad

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    That's right. How could I forget? There can be no discussion of Israel without reference to the Holocaust. Because surely that terrible event gives Israel carte blanche license to do whateve they please, no questions asked. All Israel has to do to silence critics and justify whatever actions and policies they want is trot out someone with a tattoo on their forearm.:yesman:

    But don't these constant comparisons for every perceived slight or insult to Israel or Jews cheapen the memory of the Holocaust? And dosen't labeling every other tinpot dictator and despot as "the next Hitler" do the same?

    The right loves to constantly make comparisons to WWII, or the Holocaust, or Hitler.(Only about our perceived enemies of course. Any parallels to the USA or our allies is totally unfair and uncalled for and the worst possible hyperbole and slander!):mad:

    But this ISN'T WWII. Whatever trials Israel and the Jews are going through in no way compares to the Holocaust. And Saddam wasn't and the President of Iran isn't "the next Hitler"!

    So let's stop with all the lame comparisons. You stop calling Ahmadinejad the next Hitler and I'll stop reminding you warrantless searches of their citizens and detention without trial were favorite tactics of the Nazis!

    And of course we should try to prevent countries from "lobbing nukes at each other". But is bombing or invading one of those countries, maybe lobbing some nukes at them, the one WITHOUT nuclear weapons, is THAT the answer?

    Maybe we should start with a gentle suggestion to Israel that maybe THEY shouldn't have nuclear weapons either? How about that? Or are they entitled to nuclear weapons because of the Holocaust?
     
  12. Halfsek

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    No Jon. You keep harping about how we're supposed to see it from the side of Iranians or the Palestianians or Hugo Chavez (not him, but you get the point). But when I point out a specific example of the isolationist views of the US (lets not forget the wet noodle spined Europeans) at the time- which allowed for the murder of millions of Jews, gays and other undesierables, you just wave it off.

    I never said that;
    What I said was (why do I constantly have to use that phrase?) to simply think that Israel doesn't have the luxury to believe that Iran is just blustering away. That they are rightfully worried that maybe Iran is telling the truth. Iran is the enemy of Israel. Iran is currently supplyinig weapons and money to groups whose sole focus is the destruction of Israel.
    Maybe, just maybe, Iran actually does want to destroy Israel and is working to do that. Do I need to refer to Holocaust to suggest that as being reality?
    Have you looked at the title of this thread lately?

    That's it. I never said Israel should be allow to gas, nuke, or do anything else to Iran.

    What is it with you on the left who constantly try to shift the argument to a point which was never touched on by those you disagree with?

    So instead of actually responding to my points, you go on a little rant about how Israel always gets a pass at everything and how Israel has to do is
    That's about the most disgusting thing I've read on this board in a long time. You're so eager to prove this genius point you've come up with all by yourself that you jump at it even when it's not justified.
    My post was in reference to the international mindset at the time which allowed for such a thing to happen. Not to justify action by Israel in the present day.
    So I ask you- please quote my passage where I was asking for justification for an Israeli action because of the Holocaust.
     
  13. AllieVi

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    Halfsek,

    You chastise people for considering the perspective of Palestinians. Aren't you equally partisan in seeing things mostly from Israel's point of view?
     
  14. Halfsek

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    Allie... I don't say I'm not partisan towards Israel. My problem is when people take what I say beyond the meaning of the words.
     
  15. Bogy

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    Halfsek, I believe the quote above is made up of YOUR words. How about the spinelessness of Europe, particularly the British, and America, when hundreds of illegal immigrants, Jews, were allowed to settle in Palestine. How about the spinelessness that let tens of thousands of productive, hardworking property owners be driven from their homes with only what they could carry in the middle of the night? It was wrong when we let Germany do it to the Jews, what made it right when the Jews did it to the Palestinians? Was it the epitomy of anti-Semitic behavior, because those Jews that wandered looking for a country to take them, with the door continually slammed in their faces, finally landed in a country a long way from us, and displaced other people we didn't really like either. All of them happen to be Semites. We didn't want any of them coming to a community near us. So we let it happen. Spineless.
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    So if Iran and Israel are enemies... and Iran has threatened Israel... you don't believe Israel should be allowed to do anything... BUT you believe the un-threatened US should be allowed to do something?

    :confused:
     
  17. Halfsek

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    Bogy- as you get your information from anti Semetic websites, why should I bother refuting anything?

    As to your first point, I re read my post.

    I said:

    1) Israel might not be in as a comfortable position as someone in the US.
    2) Iran has threaten to kill millions of Jews (by destroying Israel). Have you read the title of this thread recently?
    3) We have recent history as to the result of "why should we care".
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    4) Preventing a regional nuclear war which would instantly kill millions (not to mention fallout) and destroy the world economy killing millions more... which is "why we should care".

    Jon took upon that to rant about how Jews use the Holocaust to explain away any action they made. No connection.

    You come in with some useless blather which has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
    But I've come to expect no more from you.
     
  18. Halfsek

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    Holy crap. You're about as dense a person as I've ever met.

    No. I never said that.

    Hint. Just becuase I mention a possible repercussion to an act, doesn't mean that I'm saying not to do it.

    Stop thinking of yourself as a genius and trying to weave your brilliant thoughts into my posts when I never say such things.
     
  19. AllieVi

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    "Allowed?" Your statement implies that approval or acquiescence from some entity outside Israel would be required. As a sovereign nation, Israel should not submit to that limitation.
     
  20. Stewart Vernon

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    So are you saying that you did NOT just post the following:

    I see no other way to interpret that but that you don't think Israel should be allowed to gas, nuke, or do anything else to Iran.

    So I asked the logical follow-up... why think the US should be allowed to respond if you don't think Israel should?

    Perhaps you should read the words you type to see why they don't make sense?
     
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