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Is Iran Looking For Peace???

Discussion in 'The OT' started by tomcrown1, May 8, 2006.

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  1. durl

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    If a kid today were to walk into a school and say that he wants to kill all the teachers, and he showed us a bag of bullets, what should be our reaction?

    If the leader of a nation says that he wants to kill every resident of another country and is in the process of building a weapon that could do just that, what should be our reaction?
     
  2. Bogy

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    The reaction to a bag of bullets would be quite different than the reaction to a loaded gun. Few kids can throw bullets with enough velocity to do much damage.
     
  3. Halfsek

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    Don't be silly. I'm quite sure you're capable of getting my point.


    State sponsored US segregation and oppression are over. Sort of exactly what I said in what you quoted.
    If you're unsure on the subject, please ask all the black lawmakers in this country.
     
  4. Bogy

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    How about imperialism?
     
  5. jonstad

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    If you're not careful you'll invite comparisons to leaders of nations that threaten to invade and occupy other nations posing them no threat and actually do it! The next logical question of course is what should be done about those kinds of countries?

    Any nation acquiring nuclear weapons for any reason should be strongly discouraged. But the leader of Iran has extended what appears to be an olive branch, or at least an olive twig. Perhaps it's a diversion. But what do we possibly have to lose by talking to them? If we can settle this matter peacefully, isn't that preferable to ANOTHER military attack or invasion and possible occupation of a THIRD country in the region?
     
  6. jonstad

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    Really?

    Well OK, by all means, go ahead and ask them!
     
  7. Halfsek

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    We have state sponsored segregation in the US?

    I suppose you could mention affirmative action laws...
     
  8. ntexasdude

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    Like I've mentioned many times before, my very good Iranian doctor friend hates that place. He fled during the revolution and never looked back. He has told me many times he wished the US would just drop a nuke and turn Iran into glass.

    On the subject of state sponsored segregation - what kind of "state" are we talking about? National, state, regional, local? I can give a real live example of local government sponsored segregation where minorities begged to be segregated right here in sleepy little town of 110,000.
     
  9. News Junky

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    I hate to alarm everyone but it might be possible they're looking for genocide. From what I've heard in their primary sect of Islam believes some guy called Amir the 16th is supposed to return to earth but cannot until some number of people are killed. I think its in the tens of millions. I heard it suggested they might be trying o cause that to happen and see their role in it as prophectic. Something I heard on the radio. I might have gotten some of the specifics wrong but thats close to what I've heard.
     
  10. News Junky

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    Correction: The 12th Imam... Or the "madhi"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

    When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."
    from:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...an14.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/14/ixworld.html

    Serious-minded people are alarmed. "The International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) has passed a resolution noting that Iran's actions, including Ahmadinejad's statements, are early warning signs of genocide" (R. Blum, G. Stanton, E. Richter and I. Charney, "Ahmadinejad—Incitement Deserves Indictment," The Jerusalem Post, Feb. 7, 2006, emphasis added throughout).
    http://www.wnponline.org/wnp/wnp0603/iranpose.htm

    According to the prophecies in the Muslim Hadith, (the traditions and sayings of the prophet Mohammed), the 12th Imam al-Mahdi will be resurrected only after "one-third of the world population will die by being killed and one-third will die as a result of epidemics."
    http://www.justsixdays.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=297&
     
  11. Mike D-CO5

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    My God this guy is worse than a nut job. I am sorry but I don't like war, like in IRaq which was a personal issue with Bush and Saddam , but in this case I think we need to make an exception. It is time to us the nuclear bunker busting bombs on Iran and eliminate the threat. I knew he wanted to start a nuclear war but I didn't know about the bilogical things. I am sure Iran has access to some of the more deadly viruses in its labs that they can use to start an "epidemic". It is getting harder and harder to sleep at night. Makes you wish for the good old Cold War,when you knew that EVERYONE would die if one side or another started something with a nuclear first strike.
     
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    At the same time there are many Christians who otherwise might be liable to hate or at least resent the Jews who enthusiastically support Israel and the rebuilding of their "Temple" as a necessary fulfillment of prophecy needed to bring on the Second Coming of Christ and the "Rapture".

    Now while this notion may not specifically entail the "death of 1/3 of the Earth's population", it does require the spectre of let's say at least 2/3rds of the Earth's population being "left behind" in a world plagued by global war, famine, disease corruption and evil, despotic leaders. And BTW, any wars, plagues, famines, etc. necessary to bring this about are OK and just part of the process. Please feel free to correct me if I am essentially wrong about this scenario.

    As troubling as Amadinejad's pronouncements may be, and they ARE very troubling, it is just a symptom of a much larger problem. And that is the idea that ancient religious myth and superstition can or should be used for people to guide their lives, and particularly that this myth and superstition should provide justification for the actions and policies of governments in our modern society.

    While nearly all Christians would reject as ludicrious any notion that bringing on the deaths of 1/3 the world's population through war or famine would facilitate the resurrection of the "Mahdi" and therefore is a good thing, a frighteningly large number have accepted the "fact" even more of the Earth's population must descend into a literal hell on Earth visited by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse to bring on the second coming of Christ and that IS a good thing.

    We cannot advance as a civilization clinging to these archaic and discredited religious legends. Our infancy is over! The very definition of adult is that you don't need imaginary friends anymore! We can become adults and learn to make our judgements on the realities of this planet and the Universe we inhabit. Or we can continue the infantile approach of trusting fear, ignorance and superstition to guide us. The leadership of Iran has apparently made their decision. What decision will we make?
     
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