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Is moving from 61.5 to 129 in Cleveland bad?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by mdewitt, Nov 20, 2010.

  1. mdewitt

    mdewitt AllStar

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    I've found some older posts saying that the 129 signal is bad in Cleveland, actually I'm in Akron but get Cleveland channels. Has this improved any or am I in for problems? They are coming out Monday to point me to 129 from 61.5. I have a second Dish 500 pointed at 110/119. I already had 2 branches cut down since the last time they were out and said they couldn't do it. That was at my request because I can't get some of the new HD channels. This time they called and said that I had to be switched.

    Thanks!
     
  2. scooper

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    I couldn't speak to 129 for Cleveland, but -

    Dish is using two different satellite Arcs for HD - 110/119/129 (Western Arc) and 61.5/72.7/77 (Eastern Arc). Dish wants all HD customers on one or the other, with the deciding factor being what Arc(s) your HD locals are on.

    Dish has a newer satellite at 129 now, so those issues on signal strength maybe gone now. What maybe more important for you is Line of sight to 129 - as low as 119 is, figure 129 to be a couple to 5 degrees lower than that (maybe more). As a result - trees (and buildings) that aren't a problem with 119 may become a problem with 129.

    Another factor on Eastern Arc / Western Arc - Eastern Arc requires all your receivers to be VIP models, whether the TV is an HD or not. Western Arc will let you use your older SD only receivers / DVRs along with your HD one(s).

    I'm sure others can chime in if I didn't cover everything.
     
  3. mdewitt

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    One of the techs said he could see 129 but the branches were in the way. I had the branches cut down, but I am surrounded by 80 foot trees so we'll see. I do have ViP receivers and I'm pretty sure that my HD locals are mirrored on 129, at least that's what they said.

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  4. BattleZone

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    Yes, Cleveland locals are mirrored on 129, so if you have LOS to 129, and otherwise have 110/119, then you're good to go.

    I've installed Dish HD customers with a 1000.2 dish just fine in the Cleveland area.
     
  5. mrc54

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    Having a second dish is a plus for getting a stronger signal. If you add a I adapter to center the LNB, it will add even more signal.
     
  6. BattleZone

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    A little more, but not much. The Dish 500 is somewhat defocused to spread the signal to 2 LNBs (like 2 duals or a twin), so much of the benefit is lost. You really don't get much more than a Dish 300 (18" single LNB dish). If you REALLY want to get plenty of signal, a 24" single-LNB dish is the way to go.

    But, with Ceil-2 active, that isn't necessary anymore anyway. The 1000.2 works just fine.
     
  7. Michael P

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    Wow, you came a long way to install dishes! Or are you a Cleveland "ex-patriot"?

    I'm in a similar boat. I have a Dish 500 aimed at 119/110 and a Dish 300 aimed at 61.5. I have DPP Twin and a DP on the Dish 300. I'm currently missing about 17 HD versions of channels, but for now that's OK since I don't have an HDTV yet. I did my own installs including a move (when I upgraded to DPP LNB's), there has never been a "truck roll" to my house by E* in the 13 years I've been a customer!
     
  8. Jim5506

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    Have you considered aiming the D500 at 61.5 and 72.7 and the D300 at 77?

    This combo has worked for others, but the spread between 61.5 and 72.7 is 11.2 degrees and the D500 is designed for 10 degrees -may drop signal a bit , but it does work.
     
  9. mdewitt

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    Well it's all done. All they did was point my dish that was aimed at 61.5 to 129. The other dish is still pointed at 110/119. I now have the channels I was missing and I haven't had any signal issues. The did not use a wing dish or W-bracket as I was told that I would need.. I just have one dish 500 pointed at 110/119 and another 500 pointed at 129.
     

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