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Is Slimline bad? Peak signal of 60 on sat 101

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by bongju, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. bongju

    bongju Cool Member

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    I am attempting a self install of a new Slimline dish to replace a 3 LNB dish. I purchased the Acutrac22 MKII Pro meter, and when selecting 13v and no 22 KHz tone, I am only getting a peak signal strength of about 60 on the 101 satellite. I am using a new RG6 cable from the multiswitch to my meter. On my HR20, I am getting zeros on all transponders except 28, 30, and 32, which are reading 43, 60, and 51. On my 3 LNB dish, I was getting a signal strength near 100 on most transponders according to my HR20.

    Does this indicate that I got a bad Slimline, or is there something else that I should check first.
     
  2. litzdog911

    litzdog911 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    You're aimed at the wrong satellite. Those three transponders are beamed from the 110-deg satellite. Your dish should be centered on 101-deg W, not 110-deg W. While standing behind your dish, adjust the azimuth several degrees to the left.
     
  3. bongju

    bongju Cool Member

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    Can someone please confirm that I am using the correct settings on the Acutrac22 Pro to find the 101 satellite? I selected 13 V and no 22 KHz tone.
     
  4. hiker

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    That's correct according to the instructions.
     
  5. techrep

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    litzdog911 is probably right and you need to change aziumth a few degrees left.

    Several sats will show signal, on the Acutrac, with the same volt and tone settings.

    If you selected the 3lnb option in initial setup, the rough azimuth and elevation settings (and tilt) will be a little different than the 5lnb settings.

    Also, double check that you set elevation using the red (maybe white) line on the back assembly and not the bolts.
     
  6. jdspencer

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    Isn't 13v used to tune the odd transponders on a satellite?
    No 22Khz for 101 and with 22Khz for 110/119.

    Channels 490-494 can be used to verify reception on the 101/110/119 sats.
     
  7. Dec 1, 2007 #7 of 24
    TigersFanJJ

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    bongju, where are you at in Alabama?
     
  8. Apr 6, 2008 #8 of 24
    gtbird88

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    :biggthump :biggthump

    Thanks for the advice.. I too was upgrading from old 3 lnb to newer slimline dish. After 3 days of banging my head against the wall I came across this message tread and seeing the tell tell signs of receiving 3 strong signals on transponder
    28 30 & 32 only I realized My Problem. I went out and moved the dish to the Left a few degrees and adjusted the Elevation a bit and Lo and Behold We had signal..

    I was using the Accutrac III+ meter to find sat. and discovered although it might say your on 101 sat. your really not it only reads the signal strg. and volt. so don't rely totally on inline meters.

    Thanks for the help great to have Dtv back up and running..
     
  9. Apr 6, 2008 #9 of 24
    litzdog911

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    Welcome to DBSTalk! Glad we could help!
     
  10. texasbrit

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    You are almost certainly pointed at the wrong satellite. Remember the slimline dish points at the 101 satellite and the 3-lnb points at 110.
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 DIRECTV A-Team

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    Another satisifed DBSTalk poster....:D
     
  12. K4SMX

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    Check out the date on the OP.....:)
     
  13. texasbrit

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    oops..!
     
  14. bubbaart15

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    Could this also be true if I'm using the receiver to see the strength and not a meter? I also have 60s and 70s for the 101, but I have 70's for the 110, 80s for the 119, and 50s for the 103. Does this sound like I'm centered on the wrong Sat? If so, how do you find the write one?
     
  15. texasbrit

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    if you are using the receiver then your satellite selection is OK. Your dish is simply not aligned correctly. You should have 90s for pretty well all the transponders that are not spot beams. Unless you have the dish aligned correctly on 101 (90s or even 100) than you will never get decent signals on the other satellites.
     
  16. bubbaart15

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    I've tried to peak it, and that is the highest we could get. Could it be the connectors we're using with the RG6? We were getting 90's with the old round dish, but couldn't get that high with the slimline with the same cables and connectors. Moved it all over with the receiver reading the numbers and we couldn't get any higher than 74 on the 101. When I moved the tilt, the 119 went up, so I'm assuming I'm centered on the 101. I'm not sure what else to do. The channels are working, so I'm happy about that, but I would like to increase the numbers if possible.
     
  17. bubbaart15

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    I am still having problems tweaking the slimline dish. My concern is leveling the post. It appears to be level, but I'm not positive. I have gotten the 101 to the upper 70's and low 80's, but then when I try to adjust the tilt to get the 103 strength up, the 101 signal goes down. Should changing the tilt (moving the dish like a steering wheel) change the 101 signal? We do get all the HD channels except the ESPN one's and 1 HBO and 1 Showtime HD channels. I also changed out all of the connectors to the high end compression connectors. Any ideas?
     
  18. satjoe

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    The 101 is used as a bore site, once you get the 101 the dish tilt only swivels around it unless your pole is not plumb

    Good Luck
     
  19. Brannayen

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    It could be the reflector. Twice now in the last 2 weeks, I've gotten 50's and 60's until I replaced the reflector. There didn't seem to be any visible flaws, dents or scratches, but nonetheless the signal came in strong as soon as I replaced it.
     
  20. firefighter4evr

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    D* should just hand over customer service to DBSTalk.... Maybe we could have more satisifed customers!:joy:
     

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