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Is the future of 3D in doubt?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by thelucky1, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. Nov 4, 2010 #81 of 211
    Richierich

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    It's a Niche Product for a Very Small Audience with enough money to be able to play around with the Technology in it's Infancy which most people can not afford to do.

    That's not to say that there aren't a few thousands of people who will Spring for it to get the Wow Factor and there is Nothing Wrong with that and I may do that down the road when my ship comes in.
     
  2. Nov 4, 2010 #82 of 211
    hasan

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    Not a valid comparison at all. All HDTVs have to support at least 720p and 1080i, or they are not HDTVs. 1080p is an option, but not required. These are internal standards, not competitive external standards.

    The fact that there are multiple competing 3D standards is the problem. What that really says is that there is no standard....yet. A more accurate comparison would be beta max vs standard VCR wars. We know how that turned out...the people who invested in beta max lost their investment, just like the HD DVD vs. Blue Ray people did (although they can still use their HD DVD player as an upconverter for standard DVDs.)

    How are people going to feel when this all shakes out and their $2500 plus HDTV no longer works for 3D?

    ...and none of this addresses the real problem: wearing glasses. It's a no go for the larger market. It's one thing to go to the theater for a one time event and use their glasses. It is wholly another to sit in your own home for two to four hours per night or six to eight on a football weekend, wearing glasses, and/or furnishing the expensive things to guests. The whole idea is ludicrous (to me).

    Early adopters will have their fun, but in terms of real market penetration, I don't think it's likely to happen they dump the glasses.

    I don't much care either way. Given time, the market will shake things out and we will see just what new comes along and if any of the old survives (much less flourishes). 3D for the home viewer, as it is offered today, looks like a very bleak picture to me.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2010 #83 of 211
    hasan

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    ...and the same could be said for Blu Ray. Once the players became much less expensive (even a decent one now can be purchased for $78), and titles ranged from $8.00 (for older movies) and $20.00 for much newer movies, the combination of the occasional Blu Ray disk (rented/NetFlix/puchased) with upconverting standard DVDs has allowed the Blu Ray player sales to improve dramatically.

    Blu Ray is an example of a competing external standard that worked because it provided two uses, and became reasonably affordable.

    Nothing even remotely resembling this is taking place on the 3D horizon. I hope something comes along that is affordable and glassless in the 3D venue. It looks, however, like it's going to be a while.:)
     
  4. Nov 4, 2010 #84 of 211
    hasan

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    Nicely put! I would agree completely, but only if they go glassless. I wouldn't even dabble if glasses were required.
     
  5. Nov 4, 2010 #85 of 211
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    Dunno what you guys are talking about, my two Mits will show all the 3D standards out there.

    And, btw, my first HDTV (2001) would only show 1080i, not 720p, and not 1080p. It had an external tuner that could turn 720p into 1080i, however. Most fixed pixel displays will convert 1080i to something else to show it on the TV, that's what my second HDTV (2004) did (1080i to 720p) and the third one (2005). The 4th and 5th ones (2009) will turn 720p or 1080i into 1080p to show it on the TV.

    The difference between interlaced and progressive and the ability of on board or external tuners/adapters to switch input from one format to the other, really isn't any different than Mits taking side-by-side or top/bottom or packed and turning it into checkerboard --you've still got useable 3D on the TV at the end of it.

    You might not like the current 3D standards --you may even believe new and better ones will evolve leaving current users in the lurch. But there are standards, and reasonable interoperability.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2010 #86 of 211
    Richierich

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    I can put the 3D Glasses on for a Few 3D Events but it will just be a Niche Thing in my house when I decide to do it and that may be sooner than I thought but then that is another story only known to a few!!! :lol:
     
  7. Nov 4, 2010 #87 of 211
    hdtvfan0001

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    I can't even imagine what that could possibly even look like... :D

    Oh yeah....I guess I can.... :lol:

    Wonder if those work underwater....???
     

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  8. Nov 4, 2010 #88 of 211
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    Rich's Bill Cosby sweater in 3D might be quite a sight. ;):p
     
  9. Nov 5, 2010 #89 of 211
    Richierich

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    Oh You DEVIL!!! That was not meant for Public Distribution and you have Violated Your NDA so now you sleep on the Floor!!! :D
     
  10. Nov 5, 2010 #90 of 211
    Richierich

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    I was Styling and that is my Vail Ski Sweater not Bill Cosby's Sweater unless he Skiis in Vail!!! :lol:
     
  11. Nov 5, 2010 #91 of 211
    hasan

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    Styling? Is that some sort of runway prance you do in your Bill Cosby sweater....oh...wait...it was probably a typo.:)
     
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    !rolling
     
  13. Nov 5, 2010 #93 of 211
    hdtvfan0001

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    Now he's Rich and Famous...
     
  14. Nov 5, 2010 #94 of 211
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    I have a Panasonic 65-inch 3D plasma TV and my wife and I love it. Just waiting for more programming. Also, everyone we've shown it to has loved it as well. Not gimmicky at all in this household, and so much better than the red/green glasses - not even near comparable experience.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2010 #95 of 211
    sigma1914

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    ;)

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  16. Nov 5, 2010 #96 of 211
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    Now this is the only sweater I’d wear 3D glasses for. :D

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  17. Nov 5, 2010 #97 of 211
    Richierich

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    Y'all Are Sick Puppies and I am going to Ask the Moderators to start Deleting some of this Garbage that is Not On Topic!!! :lol:
     
  18. Nov 5, 2010 #98 of 211
    Richierich

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    I'll go along with that one. I hope she doesn't Stretch out that Sweater too much!!! :lol:
     
  19. Nov 5, 2010 #99 of 211
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    Glasses or no glasses.... 3D can grown on ya after a while. :D

    I think we'll see even more 3D going forward, in one form or another.
     

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    I just don’t get it. They look like sunglasses. How can they not impact the brightness and contrast levels? To me, finely tuned brightness/contrast supersedes any silly 3D effect.
     

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