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It’s a sad day for Happy Meals in Santa Clara County

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. Herdfan

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

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    Its not about 12 places being able to give away a toy, but instead a few telling the many they are too stupid to know how to raise their kids.

    I get the idea that kids today are fat. I see them going into my daughter's school every morning. Fat kids who do nothing but stay home, eat junk food and play video games. My daughter on the other hand swims 6-8 miles per week and eats a fairly healthy diet.

    She is in great physical condition and healthy because my wife and I help her make good choices with regards to food. As a result, when we go out with the swim team after meets, she is the one who orders salad and grilled chicken instead of fried chicken nuggets. She does this on her own as we would not stop her from eating nuggets on these occaisons.

    Another example, if anyone has been watching Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution, that happened in the county next to mine. A friend of mine who is a principal at one of the schools that is part of the "healthy school lunch" program to me that his "hot lunches" had droppped 40% since the kids don't like it and the number of parents that bring their kids fast food everyday for lunch as skyrocketed.

    So parents will continue to make bad choices for thier kids and their is not a government in the world that can stop it. But I do know that I don't want this being legislated as to what I can do with my child. Today it is just toys in kids meals, but who knows what it might be tomorrow and that might just be something that is at the top of your list.
     
  2. spartanstew

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    Only because you directed the conversation there.
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    This doesn't legislate what you can do with your child, unless you feel/think it's your right to get a free toy.
    Should this be about whether the happy meal can be sold or not, then I'd agree.
    This has to be one of the stupidest "laws" around, but the county supervisors passed it. It doesn't affect anyone outside the county. Should you see this in your area or see that it's becoming some type of movement, then it would rise to a higher level of concern IMO.

    As it is right now, I simply can't see all the angst over it, and kind of have the reverse feeling that others shouldn't be telling me, or others in the state, what we can or can't do. It's our own business. If we want to do stupid things, that's our right.
     
  4. Mavrick

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    If I lived in this area when this went into effect I would go into a McDonald's and order 1 Sad Meal just to see what reaction I would get. :D
     
  5. Phil T

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    Hey, me too, I worked at Burger Chef when a hamburger was 23 cents and frys were 23 cents so we had to learn multiples of 23.

    Now instead of McDonalds across from High Schools it is Chipotle and Starbucks. Find a school district anywhere that makes a profit from their Food Services. It can't be done unless you close the campus.

    School Districts are now banned from selling Coke or Pepsi (bad for kids) but 10 years ago the district I used to work for was part of a 30 million dollar contract for selling soft drinks. Now we have a 10 million budget shortfall and a new Chipotle across from each High School.
     
  6. phrelin

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    While I think the act is whispering into the wind, I will reiterate the truth that injuries and illnesses among the uninsured treated at emergency rooms cost the taxpayers a bundle in California and the counties are the level affected.

    Of course, trying to get kids to eat better doesn't do much for the financial crisis facing the County right now.:sure:
     
  7. Stewart Vernon

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    People just need to raise their kids to make informed choices.

    I'm actually the oddball in my family as there was always junk food around the house, but I was rarely the one who wanted to buy it!

    Even as a kid I preferred extra helpings of normal food to junk food or dessert.

    I will eat dessert sometimes... if it is really good... but I still don't choose that stuff first... but I always had bad food choices available to me.

    Now, I still don't like green peas... except in other things (like soup or salad or something where the peas aren't the majority but just there for flavor)... but that's a taste preference and not an aversion to healthy food.

    I also don't think fast food has to try and cater to healthy meals unless they just want the business. It isn't McDonalds' responsibility to get me to eat right... that's mine... and it's also mine if I had children to make sure they eat right as well.

    All that said... a healthy person can certainly eat some "junk" food now and again without harm. Overdoing anything (even healthy foods) can be a problem... and I hate seeing the blame put in the wrong place.
     
  8. Cholly

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    Meanwhile, college students happily dine on Ramen Noodles, KFC Double Downs, cheese fries, Hardee's thickburgers and other similar dietary monstrosities. My son in-law lived on a similar diet during his college years. He applied to go into the Air Force for pilot training, only to be turned down because he had become a diabetic.

    Let's face it: we eat fatty, high sodium foods because they taste good. We suffer the consequences later. Parents can't be monitoring what their kids eat every minute of the day. By the time a doctor tells you that your child is obese or suffering from fluid retention or some other form of malaise, bad eating habits have already been formed. One need only look at the recent statistics about child obesity in the USA. Spurred on by nutritonists and doctors, Governments leap into action, trying to protect us from ourselves. Our normal reaction - "It's my life, let me do with it what I will!"
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    Heard about a college that won't let you graduate, even with all the needed credits, if your body mass is above some number. :eek2:
     
  10. AntAltMike

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    Sure. Just explain to a kid that it is not in his long run interest to eat junk food, take drugs, drink booze, smoke, skip school or play in the rain. To qoute Ross Perot, "Problem solved!"
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    "In the old days", parents didn't "explain", but merely "told you" [or else].
     
  12. phrelin

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    I like to call that the 2x4 method. You know, never physically punish the mule, but occasionally hit the mule on the head with a length of 2x4 to get its attention.

    Naturally, my overeducated kids don't appreciate my observations about modern parenting, observations that come out rarely only when my frustration level exceeds my amusement at their frustration level.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    And why I can't be a CSR until they find that button on my keyboard. :lol:
     
  14. Phil T

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    My dad used his belt when he needed to. My high school assistant principals proudly displayed their paddles on the wall of their offices. They called them swats and you got so many swats depending on what you did wrong.



    Now they call it child abuse.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    And they can't teach "common sense" anymore. ;)
     
  16. dpeters11

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    Lincoln University I think, if your BMI is over 30, you have to take a one credit fitness class.

    Good thing LeBron James and Will Smith are only overweight going by BMI. Tom Cruise on the other hand was over 30 at one point.
     
  17. Stewart Vernon

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    It's more than that... You also should set a better example for your kids as well.

    Teaching your kids to eat right is, in some ways, similar to getting them not to play in the street or get in cars with strangers. You aren't doing your job as a parent if you aren't teaching these things to your children.
     
  18. Herdfan

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    BMI is a joke. Based on weight charts, I should weigh somewhere around 160. When I was in HS and in great shape, I had to cut weight for wrestling: to stay at 185 with < 10% body fat. No way was I getting to 160 in any healthy fashion.
     
  19. Christopher Gould

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    at 5"11 and 37 years old i"d have to weigh like 170 to get into the first green box on a BMI chart. can never see it happening
     
  20. Upstream

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    So I checked the McD's Happy Meal nutritional information against the law requirements published in the Sac Bee article linked earlier in this thread.

    Essentially, all Happy Meals meet the requirements as long as you don't get french fries, cheese, or soda. Instead get chicken nuggets or a hamburger, apple dippers, and milk or apple juice.




    Also, this quote was interesting from the Sac Bee: "The food? It's an afterthought. Kiley's chicken nuggets and french fries sat half-eaten Tuesday afternoon while she bounced around the McDonald's Playland on Watt Avenue."

    So maybe McDonald's has an argument that they are good for kids, because the provide lots of exercise.
     

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