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It's time to open up NFL Sunday Ticket to everyone?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by jtn, Oct 31, 2007.

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  1. Oct 31, 2007 #41 of 341
    jfalkingham

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    I hear that and second your opinion it is the NFL's choice.

    They are limited, only by where they chose to live. They want it bad enough, then move. They are not required to be where they are. May sound unrealistic, but seriously, does the NFL or any content owner need to change a business model because you have a L.O.S issue? I had to spend a good deal of money and time in finding a spot on my property where I can get all 5 sats. Some had to run multiple dishes and multi-switches (at their own expense) to get the programming they choose. To those who can't get a signal and whine that the government should force the NFL to open sunday ticket to every carrier - BOO HOO :rolleyes:
     
  2. Oct 31, 2007 #42 of 341
    Earl Bonovich

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    Okay... I just got done reading one of the two articles on the topic....

    Here is the solution... why open it up to any other carriers?

    Just eliminate the Affiliate Model for local channels... eliminate the "local area" monopoly of you can only get our channel.

    FCC eliminate that rule... DirecTV (and other carriers) simply carry ever single local affiliate in the country, and grant access to everyone...

    You can get any game for any sport for any market... you eliminate ALL of those stones with one swoop... and elminate a lot of the other issues as well.

    If you are going to change it... go full tilt... go for the 85yrd touchdown... not just a first down....

    And yes... that is utopia/fantasy land...

    My guess... is some puffy chest writers, want to take insert a stick into a tiny crack opened by the EI mess earlier this year, and see if they can pry it into something.

    Bottom line... nothing is changing till at least 2011 without government involvment... and lord helps us if it gets to that point, as we all know that will meen nothing good to any consumer.
     
  3. Oct 31, 2007 #43 of 341
    hilmar2k

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    1 BILLION is 250% of what they paid for the last contract.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2007 #44 of 341
    BJM

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    ST is a "loss leader" for D*. Perhaps they hope that D* will take off in the future so that even if they have to fork over billions to "keep" ST, there will be enough subs to keep the price down.

    No one has a right to see whatever game they want on free TV. There are 2-4 games available every weekend on broadcast TV; 3-5 if you count ESPN, 4-6 when NFLN goes live after turkey day. Local fans can always see their games except when home games aren't sold out. (I think that last rule is silly in this day and age, but that's the NFL's position, to protect the local teams.)
     
  5. Oct 31, 2007 #45 of 341
    hilmar2k

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    No chance. D* has 16 million subs, with 1.6 million subscribing to ST. So even if they lost say 50% of the ST subs, that still only represents a 5% loss is subscriber base. I seriously doubt that would cripple D*.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2007 #46 of 341
    Earl Bonovich

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    Umm....
    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2004/11/nfl_signs_new_television_contract/

    DirecTV paid: $3.5 billion for a 5 year extension
    So... $700 million a year

    So going to a $1 Billion a year... would be a 45% increase... not 250%

    Which could translate into a $100-$150 increase in the subscriber cost to Sunday Ticket in 2011...
    (I said COULD not will)
     
  7. Oct 31, 2007 #47 of 341
    hilmar2k

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    The problem is that the NFL likes the limited availability to ST that D* affords. I don't think that the NFL would be happy if suddenlt 5 million people subscribed. Isn't it Fox that wanted ST sub count maxed at 1 million?
     
  8. Oct 31, 2007 #48 of 341
    hilmar2k

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    The ESPN article said that D* bid $400 million. And by the way, I said it would be 250% of what they pay now, not a 250% increase. Different math.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/071030
     
  9. Oct 31, 2007 #49 of 341
    Earl Bonovich

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  10. Oct 31, 2007 #50 of 341
    hasan

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    Absolutely. It's their investment, they can manage it as they wish. They aren't stupid and they have a great contract (NFL).

    It is a big (single item) draw for D*. If the NFL thought they could make more money by opening it up, they would do it in a heartbeat.

    I will say this, if E* got the sole rights to NFL ST, I wouldn't be switching, even though I'm an NFL fan. What is more likely to drive me away from NFL-ST is the ever escalating large increases for the programming. It's a wonderful package, but it is getting really pricey. If it were cheaper (ha!) from another provider, would I switch? No.

    NFL-ST is just one aspect of my TV viewing. If I were "stuck" with just OTA NFL, I could live with it just fine...there's only so much time in a day/week (with DVR).

    There are plenty of sports alternatives, including NCAA football. That combined with what I can get from networks like ESPN and the "Majors", would be something I could be satisfied with. That's why I'm strongly considering dropping NFL-ST/NFL SuperFan for next year. I'm just not sure it's worth it (to me) any longer. Way too costly, not enough utility, plenty of less costly, if not free alternatives.

    When it was a hundred bucks, it seemed like a deal. We've come a long way from that figure (with some nice additional features, I will admit). I'm just starting to feel "played out" when it comes to NFL-ST. (and I realize that D* is not the primary cause of the price increases....I'm not blaming them)
     
  11. Oct 31, 2007 #51 of 341
    Earl Bonovich

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    Well damm shame that he didn't do his homework and find out that the contract was renewed at higher $$$ amounts...
    Took me 15 seconds to do a google search to find a link...

    Kinda just dimishes the value of his argument since the numbers are a bit out of wack.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2007 #52 of 341
    hilmar2k

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    Yup, sure does. Teaches me not to listen to ESPN about anything non-sports related. :)
     
  13. Oct 31, 2007 #53 of 341
    saleen351

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    The cable companies will be worth 50% of their current value in 2011.. Never before have they faces so much competition..

    I pay 338 bucks for my NFLST, i'm willing to pay 500!

    I WANT TO HUG THE RED ZONE CHANNEL. IT'S A GIFT FROM GOD!

    ok, gotta run and go "maintain" my dish, need to lube it up, clean it off, fresh sanding then primer then 3 coats of paint, then realignment...
     
  14. Oct 31, 2007 #54 of 341
    chopperjc

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    You should see my apartment!:D
     
  15. Oct 31, 2007 #55 of 341
    Ken984

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    Bossier...
    The price is getting out of hand, I thought about canceling before the season started but there were 6 weeks in question as to which team I would be watching locally if I did, my team or some scrub team. I did not want to have to go to a bar 6 weeks to see MY team, I figured that was worth the $ this year.
     
  16. Oct 31, 2007 #56 of 341
    jtn

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    Post some pictures of your apartment. :)
     
  17. Oct 31, 2007 #57 of 341
    hasan

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    I have an excuse: I'm a Bears fan. I wouldn't walk across the street to watch them play. (at their current level of non-execution). I'm a fan, not a masochist.:)
     
  18. Oct 31, 2007 #58 of 341
    Jazzmo

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    Love Sunday Ticket but the cost is getting dangerously close to being too expensive for me. Especially when it continues to get diluted by things like flex game that will take better matchups late in the season and move them to MNF.

    I have Super Fan but I got it free this year. If I cannot get HD games as part of ST next year or again get SF free, I might have to say goodbye to ST. I don't want to watch the games in SD after having HD this year. Just too much money for me to justify if I have to spend more for HD.
     
  19. Oct 31, 2007 #59 of 341
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    For me it was simple math = The packers are not shown nationally about 10 times a year. It costs me about 35 dollars at the bar plus talking my wife into dropping my off and picking me up. That cost me about 350 dollars a year.

    Directv always seems to have some deal for ST like 69.00 for all channels so it's not even close. I don't know how much above 350 I would be willing to pay.
     
  20. Oct 31, 2007 #60 of 341
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    Does anyone really think that if the NFL offered ST to all carriers the price would actually go down? They have already seen that the market will bear between $250-$350/year, why would it be lowered? The NFL hasn't budged off of it's $7-$9 price for NFLN on a basic tier for cablecos.:)
     
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