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Joey Software Glitch on FOX Sports Channels

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by 0uachita9, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    Anyone else having this problem?

    A Dish Network Hopper and 2 Joeys were installed on 6/1/2013. After several telephone calls complaining and speaking with DISH Advanced Technical Services, they sent a retail technician out who changed out the cable ends, di-plexers, solenoids, re-aimed the dish, and replace the Hopper on 6/13/2013. The problem described below still remains. Therefore, it must be a software glitch between the Joeys and the Hopper.

    The problem only presents itself in the 412 and 475 series of HD channels on the Joeys. Note that both these series of channels expand and collapse. The problem appears to be in the hyphenated channels i.e. 412-06, 412-29, 412-33, 475-02, etc.

    The only way I can view a HD channel in these series using the Joeys is to select it from the guide!

    If I channel up or down to these channels that are HD channels listed in the "MY HD Channels" in the guide, they appear in Standard Definition. How do I know this? The picture is the DISH Logo (when a channel is not broadcasting) or pillow-boxed around the sports program being broadcast at that time.

    If I use the guide to select one of these channels, the non-broadcasting channels display the soccer ball, basketball, baseball, hockey puck screen which indicates HD. If I select the broadcast program from the guide or that was previously displayed in SD from the guide, the picture is then displayed in HD. If I channel down or up from a selected HD channel and return, the picture format reverts back to SD.

    Again, when channeling up and down on the Joeys the picture is displayed in SD in these series of channels in the MY HD Channels menu guide or My Favorites (my created favorite list of HD channels only). The Hopper does not present this problem.

    A technical service request has been filed, but until Dish recognizes this issue as a problem, they won't address it; they seem to have a problem replicating it. However, the retail installer admitted that his equipment does the same thing on these channels when he investigated my complaint.

    Stay tuned...
     
  2. barryaz1

    barryaz1 AllStar

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    I have it on both the 2 Joeys and the Hopper. If I enter 412 (AZ being -05), then it will only go to the SD. I'm not sure and will check later, but it's not consistent on the Hopper, but if I channel up, it does not go to the HD version, but instead some Fox alternate 412. And like you, I have to go to the channel guide to select.

    A work-around that I haven't tried yet - I'll be setting up a Favorites called Sports. Maybe I can only have the HD be on that list?
     
  3. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    A Favorite list of only HD channels that included the 412 & 475 series of channels on the Joeys did not work for me. My Favorite List on the Hopper does not have the issue.
     
  4. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    A couple more tuning issues with the Joey...you can punch in all 5 numbers in the Fox Sports channels and the Joey will tune in HD format. Again, if you channel up or down away from the HD formatted channel, the Joey displays SD when it returns to the original HD formatted channel. Once you have a HD picture within the FOX Sports channels, if you channel up or down, then hit the recall button, the picture returns to the HD format.
     
  5. Mike.H_DISHNetwork

    Mike.H_DISHNetwork DISH Representative DISH Representative

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    [SIZE=medium]I know this can be upsetting, when you’re trying to go to the channel, is there HD programming or will you see off-air? I would like to fill-out a detailed report of what is going on for the engineers to resolve this issue. Would you please PM me with the phone number on the account for further assistance? [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium]Thanks [/SIZE]
     
  6. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    Not surpised that its been almost a month without resolution of the Joey issue and RSN channels.

    Here's another interesting tidbit...programming on FoxSW in SD mode is not visible in HD...for example, tuned to 412-06 in SD mode, channeling up to 412-06 in HD mode gets the Dish HD screen. This must be an HD delivery issue with the Fox Sports Networks and Dish.

    I now realize that I made a mistake in changing to Dish from Directv b/c I am an HD-ophile; meaning, if programming is not in HD, it not worth watching and Dish does not have the HD delivery capacity of Directv based on my experience.
     
  7. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    Now that 60-days has expired since first reporting the issue, I had an occasion to speak again with a Dish CSR. During my explanation of the issue, we tuned to the RSN 412-06 on the Hopper. The Cowboys/Cardinals preseason game was broadcasting in SD; in HD, nothing but the Dish HD screen image. How is it that Directv can broadcast both feeds and not Dish? Expectedly, she had no answers and forwarded the issues to engineering....
     
  8. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Doctor Whom Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    There are blackout issues in play... since it looks like you are in TX, it is likely the game was not available on the RSN due to blackout rules... and some other channel carried it in HD.

    Outside of that... Dish RSN feeds in HD are part-time feeds. DirecTV has full-time feeds for their RSNs. Take a look around our forum and you will see lots of discussion about this.
     
  9. Jim5506

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

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    We had it here in HD but it was carried by the local CW station, possibly produced by KTXA - 21 out of Dallas, they do the Friday Rangers game live OTA in DFW and around the state on various stations.
     
  10. 0uachita9

    0uachita9 New Member

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    My post of August 19th was a re-broadcast...Please dish, drop ESPN and give me another reason to punt you guys....unbeknownst to me when I re-subscribed to dish, I would suffer from part time HD on the RSNs. As recompense, they gave me all of the RSNs for 2 months; but sadly, there mostly SD when they broadcast...dish is supposed to be better than DIRECTV...not for sports programming!
     
  11. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

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    Dish has never been better at sports than Direct. The RSNs have always been part time HD. No surprise to anyone.
     

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