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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Oct 15, 2012 #901 of 2097
    tonyd79

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    Probably.
     
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    Speaking of booing Time Warner Cable, I must give TWC (the cable company) a big thumbs down.

    I just recently signed up with TWC so that I would not miss any Lakers coverage (pre-season and behind-the-scenes exclusives). In the three or so weeks that I've had their service, I have had more issues (outages, missing channels, DVR resetting for no reason, pixelation, service calls that did nothing to resolve anything, etc.) with TWC than I have ever had in the 10+ years that I have been with D*.

    TWC customer services says that outages are caused by the sun. Hot days apparently cause havoc with their service stations. Another CSR said that it is not uncommon for squirrels to chew on the cable lines. :nono2:

    I can't wait for D* to carry this channel. TWC is a joke!
     
  3. Oct 15, 2012 #903 of 2097
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    And bears to climb poles, ripping down cable and phone lines, no??? :D
     
  4. Oct 15, 2012 #904 of 2097
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    actually i had a brief outage last week that dtv said was caused by the sun.
     
  5. Oct 15, 2012 #905 of 2097
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    Here in la, from what I understand, twc is still trying to fix all the stuff adelphia did wrong and screwed up. That's just sad IMHO.
     
  6. Oct 15, 2012 #906 of 2097
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    That doesn't explain the Time Warner areas that weren't formerly Adelphia -- for example, the western half of the San Fernando Valley has been served by Time Warner since at least the late '90s. I have friends with Time Warner in that area, and I can't vouch for all of the problems reported by DBSNewbie, but I've definitely seen pixelation aplenty on HD channels.
     
  7. Oct 15, 2012 #907 of 2097
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    Never said it did. Just saying they are so messed up who knows the cause. It could be from multiple things.

    Maybe it's all just the squirrels!
     
  8. Oct 15, 2012 #908 of 2097
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    Yes, that happens every spring and fall when the sun is directly behind the satellite as viewed from your dish. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done about that. Fortunately, it only lasts for a few minutes.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2012 #909 of 2097
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    Yeah Adelphia was a mess. Mostly financially of course, but it kept Adelphia from really developing their digital television network. The biggest problem is the equipment on the head-ends, TWC gained both Comcast and Adelphia areas in Los Angeles in 2007 or so, and 5 years later they are still more or less independent networks with all of their own channel lineups. My mother-in-law still has the Motorola DVR they gave her in 2007 or so, and still has the Adelphia logo on it.

    Now TWC essentially has to deal with three different systems on their network. They should have started making big strides towards uniformity throughout the TWC network in the Los Angeles area, but that hasn't happened. It is going to cost a heap of money, and the economy crashed just about the same time the Adelphia thing went down in late 2007/early 2008.

    TWC Internet is probably their best product. I would sign up for that again in a heartbeat. But my TV service remains with DirecTV.

    The fact that TWC Internet works so well is that Comcast, TWC, and Adelphia all used the same DOCSIS standards, so upgrading/managing those networks, and melding them in to one was a LOT easier.
     
  13. Oct 16, 2012 #913 of 2097
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    I hear ya. He does however still have a few clutch 3 pointers left in his tank.
     
  14. Oct 16, 2012 #914 of 2097
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    He will make a good coach someday soon I think... In just not sure id pick him upon the Lakers this year, I don't see how it helps them.
     
  15. Oct 16, 2012 #915 of 2097
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    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lakers-374567-time-team.html

    Article from yesterday in OC Register.

    Orange County is 50% Cox, 50% TWC (give or take 5%, have no exact numbers) which means half of Orange County will *never* get Lakers games until TWC reaches a deal with either Cox, U-verse, FIOS, Dish, or DirecTV.

    The mentioned "OC Sports Grill" in this article I know well, have been there several times and the two daughters of my neighbor next door work there as bartenders. The owner of this bar mentions that he is in a zone that offers NO cable... which is true, as he is in the middle of a business park, close to the Angel Stadium, and not close at all to residential zones.

    How this guy is solving it? He signs up for TWC at home, then uses a Slingbox to transmit the signal over the internet to the bar, where he uses a laptop connected to his TV system to display the games.

    Creative.
     
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    Yes, very creative. But, not to rain on anyone's parade, but wouldn't he get in trouble for showing (re-transmitting) a residential broadcast feed for public viewing in a commercial establishment?

    Perhaps he signed up for a commercial account with TWC for his home?
     
  17. Oct 16, 2012 #917 of 2097
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    The only people who he could get in trouble with, is TWC. They may cancel his account if it is residential and not commercial.... he technically isn't breaking any laws if it is a commercial account. Don't know how TWC's TOS breaks this down of course.

    One thing is for sure.... fans are a hell of a lot more touchy about this situation than with PAC12. At least with PAC12 people have options. Dish has it, and virtually all cable providers (besides Charter) has it... at least in the SoCal region.

    Not so with TWCSN - NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE besides TWC themselves has it. This could get real ugly. If you live in southern OC (Cox) or Long Beach (Charter), Pasadena/Glendale (Charter), you could be shut out of most of the Lakers games soon.
     
  18. Oct 16, 2012 #918 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    Ugly will be an understatement.
     
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    Funny, stealing cable is a theft and is illegal. Stealing satellite services is theft and illegal. Copying and distributing movies is theft and is illegal. Don't be so sure that this isn't considered stealing if he has not cleared it with TWC.
     
  20. Oct 16, 2012 #920 of 2097
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    Well... Assuming for a moment that he is paying for a commercial account with which he is allowed to show sports programs to the public.... which laws would he break if he receives the program on location A, and shows it to his customers on location B?

    He isn't copying anything, he isn't stealing anything, he is just extending his reach. After all, the Slingbox device is perfectly legal as well - which is what he is using - if you as a residential customer wanted to watch the Lakers game from your hotel room in Toronto, Canada.

    I'm not so sure he is breaking any LAWS here. And this is something that should be carefully understood: He might be breaking the TWC Terms of Service, and could be subjected to disconnection of his account per TWC's policy if this is the case, but I am not sure he is actually breaking a LAW at this point.

    Would someone owning a Slingbox break the law? Nope.
    Would someone owning a Slingbox, and using it to show a sports programming he is allowed to show to customers on a different location then where the cable terminates? I don't think so..... Again, not 100% sure, but I can't find any LAWS that he would break with it. Just, potentially, the TWC terms of service, which is something completely different.
     

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