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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Oct 23, 2012 #961 of 2097
    HoTat2

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    Sounds reasonable;

    Though I would assume that even for "first stage" testing of the incoming feeds to their broadcast centers of new prospective channels, by satellite distribution at least, DIRECTV and other MSOs would still need to be supplied with authorized IRDs by the content providers to receive them as those signals are encrypted with systems like PowerVu.
     
  2. Oct 23, 2012 #962 of 2097
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    I'm not. They haven't made agreements with ANY providers, except Brighthouse which is pretty much affiliated with Time Warner Cable from an organization point of view.

    NO ONE ELSE carries the channel, I am absolutely NOT surprised that DirecTV doesn't want to set the standard in pricing by buckling first. Not surprised one bit.

    And I would not be surprised at all if DirecTV viewers (and sports bars) will miss a game or two of the regular season. This is a $4 money grab, which pretty much means that our bills will go up by $5 each MONTH. That is a LOT of money and I think DirecTV is going to play this. No one will leave DirecTV until at least November 4th, as the games before that are all televised nationally. After that, people will give DirecTV at least 1 or 2 weeks before they *REALLY* pull the plug. Also, many might sign up for the minimum package of TWC, which is about $30 a month, and KEEP DirecTV for everything else, as the HD Sportsnet channels will be included in that.

    So the game is being played as expected. It's a matter of who budges first, and with NO ONE else on board, I don't think DirecTV is going to budge first.
     
  3. Oct 23, 2012 #963 of 2097
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    Yep. But it is good to have the technology working. For all I know they could have gotten a temporary decryption token for a week or whatever to test the feed, and then leave it encrypted till the actual legal agreement has been reached. The feed is *already* being blasted to space by TWC, as they need it for their own networks nationwide (although the internet connects all TV networks, channel distribution often still goes by satellite with local markets picking them up with a HUGE dish somewhere in a TWC parking lot or something) so it really doesn't cost much to grant a decryption token to DirecTV (or others) to decrypt and test the signal. The money comes in to play when they want that signal distributed to customers' homes.
     
  4. Oct 23, 2012 #964 of 2097
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    Isn't it $4.00 for 2 channels?
     
  5. Oct 23, 2012 #965 of 2097
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    Yep. But they will mostly be SIMULCASTING the games, Lakers and Galaxy.

    I'm actually more peeved about the Galaxy than the Lakers, by the way. :D
     
  6. Oct 23, 2012 #966 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    I wrote the Lakers this past weekend about the channels, as well as DirecTV. I received a reply from the Lakers today, and while it was obviously a form letter, it had a little more thought behind it then some of the ones I have seen from some other companies, including DirecTV.

    Here it is:

    Thank you for writing to the Lakers. We are sorry for the frustration the process of launching these new networks has created.

    First off, in terms of the nuts and bolts of this, the new networks that will carry the Lakers, Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes, will not only exist on Time Warner Cable. Currently, negotiations are on-going with DirecTV. Although no agreement has been reached, these negotiations are standard for any new network and both sides are working hard to come to an agreement. Empirically, it is the nature of these negotiations to go down to the wire.

    We are not throwing up our hands on this. On the business side of our company, this issue is number 1 on our list of importance.

    Both the Lakers and Time Warner Cable Sports are committed to getting distribution to as many fans as possible. We assure you, Time Warner Cable SportsNet know that we desire carriage deals completed as soon as possible. We know this because they have been in lockstep with us on this issue from day one. In fact, as it pertains to goals, we would submit that the goals of all concerned are aligned. The fans want to see the Lakers, the Lakers want to have as many fans as possible watching us, Time Warner Cable SportsNet wants as many fans watching as possible and the carriers want the product because a large portion of their customers are Lakers fans. It's a matter of negotiating an agreement that is acceptable to all of those parties and again Time Warner Cable SportsNet is working hard to reach agreements.

    Other fans have voiced opinions similar to yours, that we should have guaranteed coverage prior to agreeing to work with Time Warner Cable Sports. While that would have been nice, it just isn't within the structure of the broadcast industry to allow for that. As you know from being a long-time fan, choosing to partner with a pay TV platform, like FSW or TWCS, is a path that will involve carriage negotiations at some point. Perhaps you remember a number of situations in recent years when FSW was in negotiations with a carrier and we worried fans might miss games.

    We appreciate that you have taken the time to write to us, we do care and even when they're unhappy, we like hearing from our fans. The best way you can help the process, help us and help yourself is by contacting DirecTV and letting them know you want them to carry the Lakers. In many ways DirecTV is your agent. You pay them to acquire the programming you desire. If you aren't communicating your wishes to them, they won't know what you want. If you already have been in contact with DirecTV, we thank you for taking the time to do so and encourage you to continue your dialogue with them. You can call them or go to http://iwantmylakers.com to fill in your zip code and provider information and send a note to your provider.

    Thank you,
    Los Angeles Lakers
     
  7. Oct 23, 2012 #967 of 2097
    Mariah2014

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    In other words the Lakers have no more control over this than the Trail Blazers did once they excepted the money with no strings attached.
     
  8. Oct 23, 2012 #968 of 2097
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    Yeah ....

    Its essentially a canned response;
    First saw it published by a poster on LakersGround.net back on 10/16

    http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=4722830#4722830

    But still interesting on some of its points none the less. Thanks for posting it here.
     
  9. Oct 23, 2012 #969 of 2097
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    A poster on the Club Laker forums posted this message that has a internal D* email whom the poster friend works for Directv:

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  10. Oct 23, 2012 #970 of 2097
    James Long

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    So ... expect a cave this week, either from TWC or DirecTV?
     
  11. Oct 24, 2012 #971 of 2097
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    WAG... I think there won't be a cave until mid-November.
     
  12. Oct 24, 2012 #972 of 2097
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    I removed the image from your quote because of the size.... but at least it is something. Not sure how much value we should place in it however. In the end, the negotiations will come down to what is said between 6 to 10 big shots from DirecTV and TWC in a conference room in a building somewhere, and these internal mails are probably from people who do internal PR and/or coordinate the technical aspect. Wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a similar email floating around for PAC12 in the last week of August.
     
  13. Oct 24, 2012 #973 of 2097
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    Will there be a free preview of nbatv or league pass so we can hopefully catch some of the games that won't be nationally televised?
     
  14. Oct 24, 2012 #974 of 2097
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    Nope. Blackout rules will still apply.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2012 #975 of 2097
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    There may or may not be a preview, sometimes they do it for a week or so. But you still won't get the "away" feed if you live in the "home" market because of blackout rules, so nope.... you won't see the games.

    I think best bet is really to plan missing 2 to 3 games, and if you really CANNOT miss them, watch them at a friend with Time Warner or find a bar with Time Warner. - Or, of course, if you have that option.... you can add Time Warner on a month-to-month plan and opt for their cheapest possible plan with 1 HD receiver, no DVR, no other services. Should be around $30-$35 I think with specials, and you cancel as soon as DirecTV gets the channels.

    I still think DirecTV WILL carry the channel, and it may even be before 10/31 - but I would not be surprised if it drags on for about 2 weeks longer.

    Thing is.... other big cable companies like Charter and Cox really don't have to sign up. They have competition with U-Verse and FIOS in various areas, but THEIR main competitor is not TWC, it is DirecTV. So I don't blame em to wait and see what DirecTV (and Dish) does before they act at all.
     
  16. Oct 24, 2012 #976 of 2097
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    Looks like three (one preseason) out of the next five Lakers games will be accessible through alternative broadcasts.

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    10/24 Lakers at L.A. Clippers --- Preseason --- on TWC SportsNet and FSPT ch. 693 at 7:30 pm
    Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA.

    10/25 Lakers vs. Sacramento --- Preseason --- TWC SportsNet at 7:00pm
    Valley View Casino Center, San Diego, CA.

    10/30 Dallas at Lakers --- Regular season opener --- TNT ch. 245 National Broadcast at 7:30 pm.
    Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA.

    10/31 Lakers at Portland --- Regular season game 2 --- TWC SportsNet and NBATV ch. 216 (Blacked-out in Lakers' Market) at 7:30 pm
    Rose Garden, Portland, OR.

    11/2 L.A. Clippers at Lakers --- Regular season game 3 --- TWC SportsNet, FSPT ch. 693, and ESPN ch. 206 at 7:30 pm
    Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA.

    All times PST
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    The steep drop off is that if no carriage agreement with DIRECTV is signed before the 11/4 game at Detroit, there are no more alternative national broadcasts scheduled for 12 consecutive games until the end of November on 11/30 for Denver at the Lakers --- 7:30 pm on ESPN ch. 206.
     
  17. Oct 24, 2012 #977 of 2097
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    Oh well, looks like the third largest MSO provider in So. Cal. COX Cable, has so far struck-out in trying to strike a deal with TWC for SportsNet.

    Hope DIRECTV is having better luck in their negotiations, but I'm not getting my hopes up considering some of the statements from COX here ...

    Cox Cable and Time Warner Cable at odds over Lakers channel.

    by Joe Flint LA Times.
    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-cox-lakers-20121024,0,7028454.story

    :nono2:
     
  18. Oct 24, 2012 #978 of 2097
    kb24sd

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    Here is TWC SportsNet's official statement:

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    http://www.twcsportsnet.com/sportsn...sportsnet-setting-record-straight-102412.html

    It's going to get more nastier in the press between TWC vs. D* and the other TV providers the longer this dispute continues to drag on :rolleyes:
     
  19. Oct 24, 2012 #979 of 2097
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    Hard to believe that's true at all. Root Sports Northwest? Mariners. Root Sports Pittsburgh? Penguins and Pirates. Root Rocky Mountain? Rockies. Root Sports Utah? Jazz.

    The only one that would seem to even be remotely in the ballpark would be Pittsburgh, but even that seems unlikely.
     
  20. Oct 24, 2012 #980 of 2097
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    I think that explains what I thought would happen with new networks on the most part. Sports pack, ala carte or bussed basically.
     

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