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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Nov 3, 2012 #1241 of 2097
    ChicagoBlue

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    No one has 200 HD channels, let alone 211. No one.
     
  2. Nov 3, 2012 #1242 of 2097
    ChicagoBlue

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    I don't think I'm God at all. I do know that after decades in this business I know a lot more about it than 99.9% of the people here. That isn't anything to do with being God, it's just stating fact. There are fundamentals going on that you and others simply do not understand and I say that based on what you are writing, not based on me just saying it. I'm sorry if that rubs you wrong.

    The world has changed, this isn't 2000 anymore, it's not even 2010 anymore. You cannot run a business where your number one product...content...is growing in expense at double digit rates every year and most of that driven by sports. You can't do it if your paying customer can only withstand a mid, single digit price increase. It's a pathway to bankruptcy.

    When future RSNs come up for contract, you're going to see some major wars go on unless they back down (which they won't). Part of what DTV is doing right now is firing several shots across the bow. Now, you may not appreciate that but they clearly are. They are saying squarely to the business, the days of just coming to DTV and exepecting a layup are over. The costs are out of control, we're not buying anymore at those rates. Whether is Pac 12, the Lakers, Houston, or others. With the SEC gearing up for their own channel, rumors of the Big East and others, this is a show across the bow. At the end of the day, these guys need DTV's 20 million subscribers to pay their bills so DTV is willing to take some subscriber losses now to get these guys in line for the long term. Whether it works or not no one will know for a few years.
     
  3. Nov 3, 2012 #1243 of 2097
    TheRatPatrol

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    So whats the solution then, how do these providers keep the costs of sports programing from getting out of control and still being able to provide sports to their subscribers? With each team/league/conference starting their own channels, how, where and when will it end?
     
  4. Nov 4, 2012 #1244 of 2097
    tulanejosh

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    I fear the solution is a world in which no one provider has everything and each provider sort of picks its markets of priority...
     
  5. Nov 4, 2012 #1245 of 2097
    TheRatPatrol

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    I think its ironic that you can get all of the out of market games with NBALP but when it comes to getting your local teams there are no alternatives, with the exception of changing providers, if your provider carries the channel.

    You would think the local teams would give the local sports fan the ability to get the games either via the internet or via a la carte or PPV on whatever provider they have.

    The sports industry needs to rethink this and something needs to change soon.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2012 #1246 of 2097
    JoeTheDragon

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    Lot of sports channels started as pay OTA channels and when they moved to cable some of them where add on channels for some time before moving to basic.

    Now why not make local sports channels a $3-$10 add on maybe you even get people on limited basic to add them as under the old 1992 law you can have limited and channels like HBO.
     
  7. Nov 4, 2012 #1247 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    I suspect that if anything ever goes a la cart in this industry,it will be sports channels. Realistically, at some point, all these new channels will deplete the other to the point they have to fold, or consolidate, and that will help level things out some, or at least lower their costs.
     
  8. Nov 4, 2012 #1248 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    Huston vs UCLA and Colorado vs USC too.

    I was talking about conference games, but we can look at both...

    just wen through the schedule. You missed a few.

    USC...
    2 of 7 conference and 0 of 2 non conference.

    UCLA
    3 of 6 conference and 1 of 3 non conference

    So 5 of 13 including a full half of UCLAs league games so far, and one of five non conference games between the two. In total, 33% of all games, and I'm guessing you will see more on the PAC 12 networks before the end of the year.

    Considering they will have basketball games most nights a week, I am very interested to see how many games are n the PAC 12 for each school.
     
  9. Nov 4, 2012 #1249 of 2097
    FlyBono24

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    Missed ANOTHER good pac-12 matchup tonight because they don't have this damn channel.
     
  10. Nov 4, 2012 #1250 of 2097
    coolman302003

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    I think he is probably referring to the HD channel list that HDOrlando over at AVSForum keeps updated for BHN Orlando, FL.

    http://www.avsforum.com/t/384294/orlando-fl-bhn/15510#post_22442268

    It appears they do count the channels that JoeTheDragon listed above in there totals.
     
  11. Nov 4, 2012 #1251 of 2097
    Stewpidity

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    From twitter, take it for whats its worth, he claims evidence of "testing" but nothing new from Sixto in a few days...

    Swanni ‏@SwanniOnTV Will #Directv add #Lakers channel today? Some evidence of signal testing and there is a game tonight
     
  12. Nov 4, 2012 #1252 of 2097
    iceturkee

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    thanks for poviding the link, i just checked on the part time. still more hd thatn dtv.

    and for the record, again, i am not a guy!! :)
     
  13. Nov 4, 2012 #1253 of 2097
    iceturkee

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    lakers play pistons but dtv only showing one feed tonight!
     
  14. Nov 4, 2012 #1254 of 2097
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    They're counting MLB Extra Innings and things like that....local channels. D* broadcasts I think over 800 local channels in HD and they don't count them. Silly stuff.


    1001 WUCF HD (PBS) Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1011/1918 WTMO (Telemundo) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1013/1213 Central Florida News 13 HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1015 WGN America HD
    1016 WOPX (ION) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1018/1901 WVEN (Univision) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1020 WESH (NBC) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1027 WRDQ-27 (Indy Owned by WFTV) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1035 WOFL (Fox) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1050 WDSC (DSC)HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1060 WKMG (CBS) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1065 WRBW (My Network TV) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1080 WKCF (The CW) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1090 WFTV (ABC) HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1102 Nickelodeon HD
    1105 Disney Channel HD
    1106 Disney Jr. HD
    1107 Disney XD HD
    1108 The Hub HD
    1121 ABC Family HD
    1122 Hallmark Channel HD
    1123/1480 HD Movies On Demand Not a HD channel
    1127 ESPN HD
    1128 ESPN2 HD
    1129 ESPN News HD
    1131 ESPN U HD
    1132/1914 ESPN Deportes HD
    1133/1913 TWC Deportes National HD (Nuestros Canales) (Dec 11)
    1134 TWC Sportsnet National HD (Sports Pass) (Dec 11)
    1136 Fuel HD (Sports Pass)
    1137 CBS Sports Network HD
    1138 Big Ten Network HD (Sports Pass)
    1139 Sports Pass HD OD (Sports Pass)
    1140 NBA TV HD
    1141 MLB Network HD
    1142 YES Network HD (Sports Pass)
    1143 MLB Strike Zone HD (Sports Pass) Not a 24/7 HD channel - no one counts this as a HD channel
    1144 Pac 12 National HD (Sports Pass)
    1145 NFL Network HD
    1146 NFL RedZone HD (Sports Pass) Not a 24/7 HD channel - no one counts this as a HD channel
    1147 Bright House Sports Network HD
    1148 Sun Sports HD
    1149 FOX Sports Florida HD
    1151 NHL Network HD (Sports Pass)
    1152 NBC Sports Network HD
    1153 Speed HD
    1154 Golf Channel HD
    1155 Tennis Channel HD (Sports Pass)
    1156 Outdoor Channel HD (Sports Pass)
    1157 Sportsman Channel HD (Sports Pass)
    1158 World Fishing Network HD (Sports Pass)
    1159 Fox Soccer HD
    1160 FOX Soccer Plus HD (Sports Pass)
    1161/1916 Gol TV HD (Sports Pass)
    1162 NESN HD (Sports Pass)
    1163 beIN Sport HD (Sports Pass)
    1175 Fox Sports Detroit HD (Sports Pass)
    1176 Fox Sports Wisconsin HD (Sports Pass)
    1177 SportSouth HD (Sports Pass)
    1178 PrimeTicket HD (Sports Pass)
    1190/1371 Mav TV (Sports Pass and HD Pak)
    1192 Big Ten Network Extra Football Game 1 HD (Sports Pass)
    1193 Big Ten Network Extra Football Game 2 HD (Sports Pass)
    1196 ESPN Goal Line/Buzzer Beater HD (Sports Pass)
    1209 Bay News 9 HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1210 New York 1 HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1211/1900 InfoMas HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1214 FOX News Channel HD
    1215 CNN HD
    1216 HLN HD
    1218 MSNBC HD
    1219 CNBC HD
    1220 FOX Business News HD
    1221 Bloomberg HD
    1225 The Weather Channel HD
    1226 C-SPAN HD
    1227 C-SPAN2 HD
    1228 C-SPAN3 HD
    1230 NASA HD
    1233 TV One HD
    1234 BET HD
    1235 Velocity HD
    1236 TBS HD
    1237 TNT HD
    1238 USA Network HD
    1239 A&E HD
    1240 Bio HD
    1241/1370 Smithsonian Channel HD (HD Pak)
    1242 History Channel HD
    1243 H2 HD
    1246 Investigation Discovery HD
    1247 Crime & Investigation Network HD
    1250 HGTV HD
    1252 Food Network HD
    1253 The Cooking Channel HD
    1254 DIY HD
    1255 TLC HD
    1256 Discovery Channel HD
    1259 Animal Planet HD
    1260 National Geographic Channel HD
    1262 Nat Geo WILD HD
    1264 Destination America HD
    1265 Science Channel HD
    1267 Travel Channel HD
    1270 Oprah Winfrey Network HD
    1271 Oxygen HD
    1272 WE tv HD
    1273 Lifetime HD
    1278 BBC America HD
    1280 GSN HD
    1281 TV Land HD
    1282 Cartoon Network HD
    1283 FX HD
    1284 G4 HD
    1285 Spike HD
    1286 Syfy HD
    1291 Tru TV HD
    1292 Comedy Central HD
    1293 E! HD
    1294 Style HD
    1295 Bravo HD
    1296 TV Guide Network HD
    1300 Palladia HD
    1301 MTV HD
    1302 MTV2 HD
    1306 VH1 HD
    1311 FUSE HD
    1314 CMT HD
    1316 Ovation TV HD
    1317 Gospel Music Channel HD
    1325 HSN HD
    1326 QVC HD
    1327 ShopNBC HD
    1340 EWTN HD
    1354 Reelz HD
    1355 AMC HD
    1357 TCM HD
    1359 Lifetime Movie Network HD
    1372 Universal HD (HD Pak)
    1373 MGM HD (HD Pak)
    1374/1385 Hallmark Movie Channel HD (HD Pak and Movie Pass)
    1375/1501 HD Showcase
    1376/1560 Smithsonian Channel HD On Demand (HD Pak) They already counted Smithsonian above and now want to count the On Demand channel? :nono:
    1377 Encore HD (Movie Pass)
    1384 IFC HD (Movie Pass)
    1388 Encore West HD (Movie Pass)
    1389 Fox Movie Channel HD
    1393 FearNet HD (Movie Pass)
    1394 Movie Pass HD On Demand (Movie Pass) Not an HD channel
    1400 HBO HD On Demand Not an HD channel
    1401/243 HBO East HD
    1402 HBO 2 East HD
    1403 HBO Signature East HD
    1404 HBO Family East HD
    1405 HBO Comedy East HD
    1406 HBO Zone East HD
    1407 HBO Latino East HD
    1408 HBO West HD
    1420 Cinemax HD On Demand Not an HD channel
    1421 Cinemax East HD
    1422 MoreMAX East HD
    1423 ActionMAX East HD
    1424 ThrillerMax East HD
    1425 WMAX East HD
    1426 @Max East HD
    1427 5StarMAX East HD
    1428 OuterMAX East HD
    1440 Showtime HD On Demand Not an HD channel
    1441/259 Showtime East HD
    1442 Showtime Too East HD
    1443 Showtime Showcase East HD
    1444 Showtime Women East HD
    1445 Showtime Beyond East HD
    1446 Showtime Next East HD
    1447 Showtime Extreme East HD
    1449 Showtime West HD
    1450 Showtime Too West HD
    1461 The Movie Channel East HD
    1462 The Movie Channel Xtra HD
    1463 The Movie Channel West HD
    1464 The Movie Channel Xtra West HD
    1466 Starz HD
    1506 Primetime on Demand HD Not an HD channel
    1691 Adult HD on Demand Not an HD channel
    1692 Hustler HD
    1693 Playboy HD
    1770 3-D Special Events 1 Not an HD channel
    1771 3-D Special Events 2 Not an HD channel
    1772 ESPN 3-D ($10 3-D Pass)
    1801 Team HD (NBA League pass and MLS Direct Kick ) Not an HD channel
    1802 Team 2 HD Not an HD channel
    1803 Team 3 HD Not an HD channel
    1804 Team 4 HD Not an HD channel
    1805 Team 5 HD Not an HD channel
    1806 Team 6 HD Not an HD channel
    1807 Team 7 HD Not an HD channel
    1808 Team 8 HD Not an HD channel
    1809 Team 9 HD Not an HD channel
    1810 Game 1 HD (MLB Extra innings and NHL Center Ice) Not an HD channel
    1811 Game 2 HD Not an HD channel
    1812 Game 3 HD Not an HD channel
    1813 Game 4 HD Not an HD channel
    1814 Game 5 HD Not an HD channel
    1815 Game 6 HD Not an HD channel
    1816 Game 7 HD Not an HD channel
    1817 Game 8 HD Not an HD channel
    1818 Game 9 HD Not an HD channel
    1850 HD PPV Events On Demand Not an HD channel
    1851 HD PPV Events On Demand 2 Not an HD channel
    1903 WOTF Telefutura HD Local station, shouldn't be counted as a national HD channel
    1915 Fox Deportes HD (Nuestros Canales)
    1917 Galavision HD
    1919 beIN Sport espanol HD (Nuestros Canales
     
  15. Nov 4, 2012 #1255 of 2097
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    Yes, day to day operations are run independently, but at the of the day the subsidiary is still the subsidiary and acts in the best interest of the parent. Everyone knows negotiating with yourself is a side show. It is not arm's length and the substance will always over-rule for the form chosen.
     
  16. Nov 4, 2012 #1256 of 2097
    Hutchinshouse

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    Did he state what testing or his source?
     
  17. Nov 4, 2012 #1257 of 2097
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    If these guys were control characters in the corporate boardroom they certainly would not be posting here. If they were they'd be the subject of various insider issues that laws and corporate polices would certainly guard against. No doubt people that work for Directv may have their opinions. But you don't see anyone in a control position masquerading here.
     
  18. Nov 4, 2012 #1258 of 2097
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    http://www.keyt.com/sports/local/New-Lakers-Channel-Could-Box-Out-Tri-County-Fans-175892431.html Time Warner itself has brought the related party relationship with Root into the question, so your assertion it has run its course is your opinion only as Time Warner, in multiple press releases, has brought this all forward. Here is just one, but it's all over. Time Warner is no fool, they know the relationship with Root is a controlled subsidiary:

    “With the Los Angeles Lakers, LA Galaxy and Los Angeles Sparks, two networks and unprecedented behind-the-scenes programming, Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes are delivering tremendous value for Southern California sports fans. Any assertion that we are the highest priced regional sports outlet in the country is simply untrue; as a significant buyer of regional sports across the country, we know that there are higher priced regional sports networks, including Root Sports that we buy from DirecTV. Cox and DirecTV know that there is no regional sports network anywhere in the country that is offered on an optional tier — that would be unprecedented. If Cox or DirecTV choose not to carry our networks, we and their customers will be very disappointed but we are confident there will be other alternatives for their customers to see this highly-anticipated Lakers season.”
     
  19. Nov 4, 2012 #1259 of 2097
    Stewpidity

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    nope, that is why i said "take it for what its worth" and/or "nothing from Sixto in a few days"
     
  20. Nov 4, 2012 #1260 of 2097
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    Hope Directv adds some of the HD channels they have such as Fox Movie Channel, TV Land, LMN, HLN, ID, REELZ HD etc. Very impressive.
     

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