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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Nov 9, 2012 #1541 of 2097
    bigdeezy

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    I don't know if it means anything but Directv took TWC Sportsnet off there promise site today. Hopefully a deal is close!
     
  2. Nov 9, 2012 #1542 of 2097
    desulliv

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    That, or they are not going to promise what they're not going to deliver.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2012 #1543 of 2097
    bigdeezy

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    Very True!
     
  4. Nov 9, 2012 #1544 of 2097
    HoTat2

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    Good catch ...

    An interesting change and omission for sure.

    Perhaps its indeed a sign of an impending deal coming :grin:

    So far nothing from all the media outlets I can find yet on the issue though.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2012 #1545 of 2097
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    That is exactly right. Smaller footprint is a layup. Don't even need a lawyer quite frankly.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2012 #1546 of 2097
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    Slow news day and priorities out of whack.

    L.A. is also a town where 1/8" an inch of rain comes down and that's the top story with leads like "STORM 2012, how to prepare, how to drive, how to survive"

    :lol:
     
  7. Nov 9, 2012 #1547 of 2097
    ChicagoBlue

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    :nono2:

    MFNs. Most Favored Nation. If you violate the contract, even if it is with your parent company, you are now violating EVERY contract and have to renegotiate all of them.

    Pac 12 isn't a RSN, not sure why you lump them in together. 7 channels. Is any network worth 7 channels of bandwidth? No. How's that Pac 12 deal with FIOS, Uverse, Charter going, just to name a few?
     
  8. Nov 9, 2012 #1548 of 2097
    Hutchinshouse

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    So true on the "storm watch 2012" BS :lol: I hate the local news.

    FYI - CNN "US" Trends has Laker news as #1 right now. :D
     
  9. Nov 9, 2012 #1549 of 2097
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    Is this supposed to be joke post? :lol: DTV, smartly, went into Latin America and is absolutely killing it down there. Absolutely killing it. They are becoming the dominant player in countries that are still growing like crazy. Absolutely brilliant move.

    While Dish, they are trying to break into a market for wireless with Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, Virgin, T-Mobile, Boost, US Cellular, Metro PCS, etc. Some analysts are wondering if Charlie completely blew his bet.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...et-in-jeopardy-amid-industry-deal-making.html

    “If the timing is too soon, you spend a lot of money and sometimes you run out. If timing is too late, the market runs away from you,” Ergen, 59, said in an interview. “There always has to be an option to exit the business if we’re not able to get into the business on time, and that window is closing.”


    There's a reason why DTV's market cap dwarfs DISH by almost double. There is a reason why people give DTV on average $96 a month vs only $74 for DISH. These things don't happen by accident.
     
  10. Nov 9, 2012 #1550 of 2097
    ChicagoBlue

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    Good point. Those are two big mistakes right out of the shoot. 30 million is so wrong it makes you wonder how much other nonsense is in there. And to use Desser...that makes me laugh. Desser is an interesting guy, but the author of the story should be disclosing that he will make even more money when a deal is done so of course he is going to slam DTV on this.

    Ed is also responsible for that disastrous deal in Portland with the Blazers which has worked out terribly for the Blazers. Something the author also doesn't point out.

    Poor journalism....been a lot of that of late.
     
  11. Nov 9, 2012 #1551 of 2097
    ChicagoBlue

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    Take a good look at what's on the Lakers channel. Horrific.
     
  12. inkahauts

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    If its the first rain of the season that's all it takes here with all the oils on the roads! Haha.

    Otherwise they just try to sensationalize everything like everywhere else seems to.

    As for priorities at least it was a break from all the politics junk. :)
     
  13. lipcrkr

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    Hello boys and girls.....just got back from Vegas, was there since last Sunday. Apparently no deal has happened yet. This morning while still in Vegas the firing of Mike Brown was the talk of the town. I think if Phil Jackson comes back DirecTV will come aboard. I will gladly pay my .02 if that happens. Otherwise no deal.
     
  14. James Long

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    Guys, perhaps you should check out the DirecTV website ... upper right hand corner of the homepage.
    http://www.directv.com/
    "30 million customers strong".

    The hover over note states: "Based on the total number of DIRECTV customers in the US and Latin America." But it is a number that DirecTV puts forth as their number of customers. If it is "nonsense" then DirecTV needs to remove it from their site. :)
     

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  15. WebTraveler

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    First, as a new entrant to the market of course Directv is "killing it." So what? Southwest Airlines grew and grew and grew. It made incredible profits. Now it flies everywhere and they're struggling, just like the other carriers. Home Depot and Lowes were flying high when they were opening new stores and expanding, revenue growth, etc. Now, few new stores, lots of closing of stores and they are falling flat. America is full of these stories. We'll have to see long term if the model works, and obviously the growth period is over in the USA as Directv is scaling back. Frankly, what happens in Latin America is irrelevant to the US viewer who just wants his sports.

    Just because one has more billings than the other doesn't mean squat. Traditionally Directv has favored the big spender. Sports fan will pay more. That doesn't mean that high roller is profitable. On the other hand Dish's market is the middle and low end.

    But as Directv pulls or doesn't renew content that is changing.

    Today right now you may say Directv's stock is riding high, it might be. But by the end of next summer - next college football season, next basketball season people will be leaving in droves unless there is a big change in philosophy and stock price will fall; analysts will figure it out in time - they always do. Right now people haven't figured out everything yet and do give Directv a chance. West Coast Directv customers have missed one football season - most won't miss two. Many LA area customers on the Lakers will only put up with this so long. Now don't take this wrong, not everyone will leave, but as Directv pulls down locals you will see it.

    Is Dish any better? I don't know. They have their issues that is for sure.

    Right now we are entering an era where you are seeing cable companies fighting back for the customers Directv/Dish has stolen over the years. The big spending on sports is one of those reasons.

    Again, I do not disagree sports costs are a problem. Never ever suggested that. What I have said is that other distributors have found a way to put them in their base packages. Directv is largely the one holding out. The rest pretty much have the channels - but here is the kicker - Directv is charging about the same as the other guys and, NFL aside, you get less. That is a fact right now. For the same base package price you get less.
     
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    No, I disagree. If you take a channel off a primary tier that you own and restrict distribution of that channel on your own system that likely won't trigger anything unless the other providers all want to put your own channel on a sports tier as well. If they all do, then great and you let them! You just solved your own issue. You took your entire channel off of wide tiers!!!! Now the Seattle Mariners won't like that as they are about all that is left on ROOT NW.

    The most favored nation is all about someone else getting the best deal. If the deal is a worse deal no one will renegotiate anything.

    Under your scenario Mr. White will never be able to reform the system he is bitching about. Again, until he leads by example the system will not change. Instead what he is doing is punishing any new entrant to the market in favor of the old, status quo, system of Fox/Comcast owned RSNs controlling most of the RSNs. He is basically telling the Lakers to go back to Fox, and he's laying down the law for the Dodgers right now not to jump into this mess. Any punishment being laid out is all on new entrants to the market. He's not getting tough on Fox saying he wants a rebate from them for the less content. He's not offering a rebate to us Root Sports customers who lost all Pac 12 content from Root. Root NW, in the winter, used to be dedicated almost entirely to 4 Pac 12 universities. We'd often have the backup channel in play. Is Mike White giving me money back because he lost his content? Nope. Instead he is punishing Pac 12 because it took it's content off his channel. He no longer pays much for content anymore, but still gets the same $2.50 a month for the channel in market and the same 10 cents out of market. So he's making tons of cash right now.

    I do wonder what will happen when Root NW comes up for renewal with Dish and the others. I can surely bet the lack of content will be a major issue in rate negotiations. Charlie isn't going to pay top dollar for high school football, I guarantee you that. (Who knows, Cheap Charlie may end up owning Root NW in the end depending on how any possible merger comes out.) And he won't pay top dollar for out of market Big 12 games. If a guy really wants those he can charge them $9 for sports pack.
     
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    I suspect he actually got the number from a press release done last year when DIRECTV hit 30 million worldwide. At the time, it was 19.4 million US and 10.6 million in Latin America. That is why the number is used on the homepage. My point was that in the USA it's 20 million. Normally writers do a little fact checking with a company's PR team to get that stuff corrected or verified, but I know see how he got there.
     
  18. Hutchinshouse

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    Great points.

    Do as I say, not as I do.
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    :lol:

    I love how DIRECTV is looking out for their customer, yet they're charging me $3 bucks a month to MRV using "MY" home network that "I" installed and support. :lol:

    I already got the green light from the wife. This customer of 9+ years is less than a week from canceling DIRECTV and moving to TWC.

    I understand satellite negotiations are far more complex than cable. The question is, why is that the customer's problem? It's not that TWC Sportsnet magically appeared overnight. DIRECTV has known about this channel for how long now??
     
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    About a year.
     
  20. tonyd79

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    I wouldn't be surprised. Vin Scully was going on and on about how to handle the heat one night. I was worried about people until I found out that the "heat" was temperatures in the 90s.
     

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