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Land-Line for "Cable-Co" references

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Earl Bonovich, Mar 28, 2008.

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  1. Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

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    As of late... I have found my self referring to other distribution companies (other then DirecTV or Dish) as Cable-Co/FIOS...

    But with FIOS being a "brand" name...

    What about adopting "Land-Line" as a way to reference the carriers that don't use SAT or RADIO waves to distribute their signal to their customers?
     
  2. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Not bad, at one point I heard TTDS's (terrestrial television delivery services) but yours is snappier.
     
  3. James Long

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    Cable/Fiber TV ?

    "Land Line" is phone service ... generally plain old telephone service.
     
  4. jpl

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    As a fios customer, I usually refer to them as either 'fiber' or even just 'cable'. From a regulatory perspective they really are a cable company. They are beholden to the same rules and regulations as traditional cable companies. I distinguish them by referring to companies like Comcast as 'traditional cable'. Even the transmission methods are similar (e.g. QAM). But I understand the desire to do that - many analysts break it out as: cable, satellite, and fiber, where 'fiber' means 'fios and u-verse'. That seems to make the most sense to me.
     
  5. thumperr

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    I have to agree with James, i hear land line and think POTS.
     
  6. Nick

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    Your proposal sounds like a solution in fruitless search of a problem.

    I don't have an issue referring to fiber-optic delivery of video as "FIOS".
    I still call facial tissue "Kleenex" and sodas as "Coke".
    So is "DirecTV" and "DishNetwork"
    Not such a good idea, as the term "landline" has been in widely-accepted
    use for decades as a generic descriptive of POTS.
     
  7. boelters

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    How about Cable Light?:lol:
     
  8. jacksonm30354

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    How about Tel-Co? That would apply to Verizon Fios and AT&T U-verse. To differentiate - Tel-co FTTH for Fios, Telco FTTN for Uverse.
     
  9. Draconis

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    I also think of a phone when someone says "Land-Line".

    Perhaps "cabled service"?
     
  10. jpl

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    I'll go back and ask the question - what's wrong with using the term 'fiber'? I know, I know, there are issues with that. Comcast claims that they use more fiber than Verizon does (I don't doubt that's true). Likewise, as jacksonm pointed out, U-Verse, in some respects, has more in common with Comcast than with Verizon - they predominantly run FTTN, which isn't all that different from what Comcast does (although U-Verse runs IPTV service).

    But I can make similar arguments about other services. We refer to DirecTV and Dish as 'satellite' and yet all cable companies at some point rely on satellite transmission to get their tv service to your house. My point is, the business community separates them as cable, satellite, and fiber. I see no reason to do otherwise.
     
  11. AntAltMike

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    I think "hard-wired" is accurate, but not very glamourous.
     
  12. AntAltMike

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    Everyone on my French Canadian side of the family still calls a refrigerator, "da frigidare".


    So what do you call cocaine?
     
  13. BubblePuppy

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    What is wrong with just keeping with the accepted and common used vernacular?
    Everybody knows what it means and what people are referring to.
     
  14. Nick

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    Cocaine.

    Since I don't use, deal or traffic, I don't know or employ the
    so-called "hip" street vernacular, what else would I call it? :shrug:
     
  15. Steve Mehs

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    Verizon Fios is just a cable service with the fiber extending to the home instead of the node. Verizon will never market their service as cable, because that's not cool. Having commercials with some goofball using fancy words to an eight year old is what Verizon is all about. Here's a way to classify the service, Disappointment. For a company that promises so much, they sure do fail to deliver. From my 'crappy cable company' I get the same broadband speeds Verizon offers in most of the country and I have twice if not more the number of HD channels they offer. Fios doesn't impress me one bit, and from the way it sounds AT&T U-Verse is even worse.

    Just got word next month Time Warner deploys digital phone to my town. Verizon, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE!
     
  16. Earl Bonovich

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    Just throwing an idea out there....

    Since there are multiple different technologises to distribute the signal, but the models are similar in the two major arenas.

    In the Sat world... DirecTV and DishNetwork... pretty all the national channels are consistent accross the entire nation.... If they are available in LA... they are available in NY and Chicago.

    In the other world (Cable-Co, Fiber, ect)... you can have different channels "national variety"... the next city over

    The "bandwith" considerations are similar between the two arenas.

    Sat - we know how that goes.
    And the others, are regional base... so they don't have the same type of bandwith issues.

    Billing, bundling, ect....

    Just looking for a generic term to use when referencing the "other" world, outside Sat.
     
  17. Steve Mehs

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    For Verizon, the line ups are the same nationwide, with exceptions for locals and RSNs. ESPN HD is on 826 no matter where you live.
     
  18. MikeW

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    Ca(ble)+(FI)os=Caos so Chaos it is?
     
  19. jacksonm30354

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    Ah, how about "non-Satellite" then ;-)
     
  20. jpl

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    This is another area where fios differs from traditional cable, though. As Steve says, Verizon has a consistent national channel lineup (I respectfully disagree with his assessment of fios, but to each his own). The reason Verizon is better able to do this than traditional cable is because they follow more of a 'top-down' approach to channel distribution, whereas traditional cable goes more 'bottom-up'. That is, Verizon feeds out all channels from a Super-Head End (SHE). From there it's distributed down to regional offices (VHOs), and from there to the individual cable offices. Traditional cable is very much segmented - each cable office is fed differently - which is why there are some 12 different Comcast channel line-ups in the Philly region alone.

    BTW, one last point, going to Steve's point - while I agree that the commercial with the kid is a bit on the goofy side, the commercial with Michael Bay is, well 'awesome!' :)
     
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