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Discussion in 'The OT' started by AntAltMike, Jul 18, 2010.
For all we know the attorney is an 80-year old senior partner who hasn't handled a case in 20 years.
A few years ago I listed my parents car for sale on Craigslist. Within a hour I received a email from a "buyer" who was in Nigeria, blah blah blah. The spelling and grammar were atrocious.
I reported it to Craigslist, not that it did any good. But that is about all that can be done.
Did you bother to calculate the shipping cost? :lol:
Or a 20-something year old attorney who hadn't heard 80 cases yet...
Question: What's the difference between a dead lawyer in the road and a dead snake in the road?......Answer: There's skid marks in front of the snake!
Craigslist is so rife with that crap, it is almost not worth trying to sell anything. Had some friends, a couple that were selling a somewhat expensive bicycle on Craigslist (around $1500 IIRC) and they got an email from someone who wanted to pay over the amount (about double IIRC )to cover shipping, please pay the shipping, keep a little extra above the sales price for your trouble and forward me the rest of the money, pretty much standard scam.
They had a check in hand and everything when one of them mentioned to me in passing that this was happening and what did I think. Immediately alarm bells went off in my head. She was about 90% ready to do it and I had to beg her not to. I pulled out my phone and typed Craigstlist Scam into Google and millions of hits came up. The front page was 75% of the exact same scam and she was still wavering. I even offerered to just take $500 from her and burn it as it would be cheaper than what they were getting themselves into.
Both of them work for a large well respected networking company that supposedly gets rid of a certain percentage of the bottom of their workforce every year and they are quite sucessfull and intelligent, yet they were still close to falling for this. At least they were a tiny bit skeptical, but the guy had been convincing and the whole old school thinking (they are in their 30s so not old though) of a Cashiers or Certified check being as good as cash almost tripped them up.
What is it about "We'll send you a worthless piece of paper, you keep half and send us money back." that otherwise intelligent people don't get?
Greed is good!
Especially since you can buy check printing machines and check paper on the net. In fact that is another job scam that seems to populate sites such as Career Builder.
Second sucker identified...
Another sucker. Given that the lawyer was taking money from one client account to replace money in another, the million dollar figure cited in the opening sentence probably is just the sum of the amounts of money withdrawn from the accounts. The actual, net amount taken might be relatively small. Or it might not. Regardless, I consider the penalty, five years in what one might call "hard labor" is punitive.
The article says the lawyer was a medical malpractice attorney. They often make mortal enemies in the legal community. All the medical malpractice underwriters pay big annual retainers to big name law firms with prestigious, "of counsel" heavyweights on their letterheads to get them favoritism in trials. When a medical malpractice attorney prevails, it is sometimes humiliating to the establishment law firm that represented the defendent, so successful medical malpractice attorneys are often scorned and persecuted by the legal establishment. I think this attorney might be getting screwed by the system for being a successful medical malpractice attorney.
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Here's a little story of the attorney that I used a few years ago when a customer declared bankruptcy owing me about $4,000. I decided at the time that he was totally incompetent.
Ira never got out of jail and has since pled guilty. He will likely spend the rest of his life in jail.
I work at a college and even administrators and professors will still respond to the obviously bogus "YOUR EMAIL HAS BEEN DISABLED SEND US YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD" scams. It's not surprising at all.
Just remember, any of us can become a victim of any type of crime. A victim is still a victim, whether you like the person or not. Being rich, being famous, being well-educated, or not being well-educated--none of these are guarantees of good judgment, none of these are guarantees that one will never become the victim of a crime.
I don't believe the comments here that this is funny, or he deserved it, or other similar comments, are in any way appropriate.
Does a man using an ATM at 3am deserve to be robbed, shot and killed? Does a 17-year-old girl walking home from school alone and through a field deserve to be raped and strangled? Does an 88-year-old woman deserve to be sexually assaulted because she left her front door open and someone walked in? Are any of these situations funny just because one could argue that all of these victims exercised bad judgment?
Oh please! Are you really comparing rape, murder, & sexual assault to being scammed by one of the oldest internet scams?
Worst comparison ever!
I bet you felt sorry for those dopes who got their house robbed after telling everyone on facebook that they would be out of town, huh? Some people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
So property crimes are different? How so? Perhaps you have never been a victim?
If I go to a shady part of town in a nice car, park it, leave the windows down, go about my business, & come back to a missing car...then, I deserved it.
You are absolutely wrong, and you wouldn't feel that way if you or your family member were a victim. Crime is never right. No one ever deserves to be a victim. Prostitutes are raped and robbed, and they are still victims, even though they are doing something undesirable and illegal. Spouses who are victims of domestic violence and recant their stories and stay in the relationship are still victims of crime.
But you are going to dig yourself into your position and stay there. Maybe someday you find yourself the victim of a crime, then you will realize that police officers and prosecutors have among the toughest jobs in the world. They have to fight the criminals, and they have to fight people who have an attitude like yours.
I hope that you are not a victim of crime, and that none of your family is. It is not a pleasant place to be. At this point you do not appear to be speaking from a position of knowledge.
It's never a question of feeling sorry. And houses aren't robbed, they're burglarized. It is a question of a crime committed against society. If a person will burglarize a house of a person who is out of town and publicized the fact on Facebook, what is to stop that person from burglarizing my house or your house?
You really need to think about the ramifications of what you are advocating, which appears to be lawlessness and open season on people you consider to be "stupid."
If you are speaking from a position of knowlede perhaps you are oversensitive to the situation and are biased. Do you not believe in personal responsibility or being safe?
My house being empty will NEVER be published on the Internet. So a person's who's MO is to find vacant houses via Facebook (or elsewhere) won't find my house. If they violate that MO and start going door to door offering to mow lawns to find vacant houses perhaps they will get lucky and find my house vacant some day. But they won't find it on Facebook.
So read your entire sentence. A person who burglarizes homes of those who have publicized the fact that they are out of town on Facebook would not burglarize my home. They would find some other mark.
It's just like locking my car and keeping valuables out of sight. Perhaps someone will still take a chance and break into my car hoping I hid something. But my hope is that they find that unlocked car with all the valuables in sight that I parked next to. The easier mark. Wise people make sure THEY and the people they care about are not the easy mark.
No ... just trying to be smarter than a high risk crime victim.
Yes, a woman should be able to walk drunk and naked through a park at 3am without being molested. But chances are someone is going to take advantage of her condition. Just like someone took advantage of this lawyer's condition of being gullible and falling for the most basic of Internet crime.
Be smart ... don't be the easy mark.
I don't consider a person who leaves his car unlocked to be in any way responsible for it being stolen, but I do consider him to be deserving of ridicule.