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Lease Option for Existing Customers

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mark S., May 13, 2005.

How do you feel about a lease for existing customers?

  1. I'm an existing customer and I got the lease for $250.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. I tried to get the lease but DISH wouldn't let me do it.

    31 vote(s)
    19.3%
  3. I was unwilling to wait so I purchased my 942.

    38 vote(s)
    23.6%
  4. I would lease a 942 if it was offered to everyone.

    30 vote(s)
    18.6%
  5. I want to lease but don't know how to accomplish it.

    51 vote(s)
    31.7%
  6. I'm sticking with my 921 till MPEG4 plans are revealed.

    28 vote(s)
    17.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. May 18, 2005 #21 of 201
    KingLoop

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    :welcome_s

    Welcome to DBSTalk HDjunkie and bkress. Good to hear that current customers are getting the 942 lease.
     
  2. May 18, 2005 #22 of 201
    datwell

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    Sheesh! Well, I don't know what more to do. I have been an E* subscriber since the 7100 (yes, I upgraded the HD) and have had America's Everything Pack, locals, etc. all along, prompt payment, etc. I have sent an email to ceo@echostar.com with all of this in it and have received no response whatsoever (no vulgarity or abuse in the email - doesn't belong in business correspondence or in internet forums, for that matter) and tried the 800 number several times to no avail.

    I don't know what more to do??? How can I buy Charlie a beer or something? I just don't know what more to do???


    da Doug
     
  3. May 18, 2005 #23 of 201
    gdarwin

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    I guess you have to have 10 years in with E* to get and upgrade.... Got tired of all the excuses why I could not upgrade - I went out today and bought it :)

    Still learning how to operate this thing, but to me the PQ is a lot better than the 811...
     
  4. May 18, 2005 #24 of 201
    Stewart Vernon

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    A while back I upgraded my leased 301 receiver to a leased 501 receiver. I think I paid a $50 upgrade fee... and while I didn't like the idea of paying $50 for a receiver that wasn't mine... I didn't want to pay several hundred to own it... so I was ok with that at the time and have enjoyed the DVR since then.

    But the $250 upgrade fee to not own a 942 isn't something attractive to me. I bought my model 6000u years ago because they weren't offering them on lease... had I waited a couple of years I could have had an 811 on lease and not spent all the money... but at least I do own my 6000u receiver for the money I paid.

    IF the 942 upgrade offer was similarly $50 I would do it... but I can't justify paying $250 for something that I will not own. Last I heard the purchase price was about $700, right? I suspect it won't be too long before sub-$500 942s start making their way into the marketplace as production catches up with demand... and then I'll probably look towards purchasing one to "replace" my 6000u and set that one in a closet for emergency backup use.

    But $250 for the right to not own a 942? Even for all the good I've heard about it... that just doesn't work for me.
     
  5. May 18, 2005 #25 of 201
    datwell

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    HDMe: I understand where you are coming from. My reasoning is as follows:

    1) It's going to cost me $5 each month regardless if owned or leased (have AEP, HD,Voom)

    2) It's going to be obsolete before it reaches the end of its service life (MPEG-4 Conversion is coming & HD subs will be changed out first, so we are told)

    3) Therefore, the smaller initial outlay makes the most sense for me.

    da Doug
     
  6. May 19, 2005 #26 of 201
    Stewart Vernon

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    I can't (and wouldn't) argue with you there... I'd have the same $5 per month fee as you either way as well... so I just weigh $250 against $700 right now... and I seriously can't justify $700, so that option goes away... and $250 is just too much for me to pay and not own it.

    I think if they were offering a $100 upgrade I might even bite on that... but I just can't throw $250 at it since I love my 6000u and the only thing I'm really missing out is the ability to DVR my HD channels... so for the moment, I use my 501 to DVR any SD stuff that conflicts and watch HD when it is on... only had a couple of times when there were 2 channels showing HD that I wanted to watch at the same time, and usually things repeat enough for me to catch later.

    But I know sometime in the next year I'm going to want to be able to timeshift my HD channels... so I hope the buy price comes down enough that I can do that... OR Dish gets friendly and makes a better lease-upgrade offer.
     
  7. May 19, 2005 #27 of 201
    jtp1947

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    Rob, thanks for the link. I emailed echostar yesterday afternoon and within an hour a rep. called me back and offered me the lease for $250. I have been a customer for almost 4 yrs. and will be replacing a 921, two 301's and one 501. Jim
     
  8. May 19, 2005 #28 of 201
    Mark S.

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    Jim,
    If you own the 921, don't let them have it. They tried to tell me after I got the deal done that they would be sending me a box to send the 921 (that I own) back to DISH. I told them they could send me a box to return to them my leased 301 instead. I don't think they were too happy about this but at that point the deal had already been offered and paid for by credit card. :lol: Don't just willingly give the 921 to DISH if you own it. If your not planning on using it anymore, sell it on E-bay or somewhere else and recoup some of your cost for the 942 lease. I moved my 921 to another room where I had 2 feeds from my dp34 switch and an HD capable 27" TV to gain another 2 tuner PVR and will be sending DISH back their leased 301. 942 is now the primary receiver on my big screen. Good luck! :D
     
  9. May 19, 2005 #29 of 201
    waltinvt

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    Hey all you existing subs that have been able to get the $250 lease deal: Didn't Dish ask you not to mention it on any of these bulletin boards ?;)
    I was told you give up your first born if you do.:eek:

    Anyway......Hypathetical existing sub 942 lease deal question :

    If an existing sub WERE to actually get the lease deal and the 942 was replacing both a 501 and an 811; a 508 would remain active; they subbed to the AEP, Superstations, HD Pak + Voom channels, would their bill actually go down $5 a month ?

    Trying to convince myself (oh alright - my wife) that this move will eventually pay for itself not counting anything I might get for selling the 811 & 501.

    Ah the web we weave.:heybaby:

    Hypathetically speaking of course.
     
  10. May 19, 2005 #30 of 201
    Mark S.

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    I believe you are correct, provided the 942 is connected to a Hypathetical phone line. ;)

    With that being said, now you only need to convince the wife that it is a good investment and you will break even in 4 yrs and 2 months. :lol: (not counting anything you might get for selling the 811 & 501)
     
  11. May 19, 2005 #31 of 201
    waltinvt

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    Hopfully she won't analyze quite as closely.
     
  12. May 20, 2005 #32 of 201
    datwell

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    Ok, Ok. I emailed ceo@echostar.com again last night so we'll see what happens.

    da Doug
     
  13. May 21, 2005 #33 of 201
    datwell

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    Hooray! I emailed CEO@echostar.com Friday morning and around 5 PM I received a call from a super nice young lady at E* who offered me the 942 lease on the $250 + $5/mo. terms. I was so surprised to receive the call that I didn't ask many questions! She just said E* would be willing to extend the lease deal to me and I didn't fool around much after that - I wasn't going to let this one get away! Of course she had our account information at her fingertips, she asked for my credit card scoop for the $250, put it through quickly and told me the 942 would ship in a few business days. I told her I would prefer to do the installation myself and I have already run the second feed from my SW64 in anticipation of a dual-tuner unit. We scheduled a professional install date anyway, in accordance with E*'s policy; however, this can be canceled if the unit is activated beforehand. I told her I would be moving the present 811 lease unit to the bed room to replace my owned 4700/4900 and did E* want it back for a credit, etc.? She replied to the effect that E* had no redemption program for them and the unit was mine to do with as I pleased. One thing that really stood out about this contact was her comportment - pleasant, positive and professional! This lady knew her stuff and did it well! Oh, if only all of my contacts with E* and others I do business with were just like this one! Anyway, I am happily awaiting the arrival of my shiny, new 942! :D

    da Doug
     
  14. May 22, 2005 #34 of 201
    richz

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    I have been a Dish subscirber for many many years, (I still have my old Dishplayer in a closet) subscribe to the Everything pack. I called and made my way up to the Executive Supervisor. I told him my story, and spoke quite a while about why I should get the @250 price but he kept saying that they are not making the lease price available to existing customers. It was a courteous conversation on both our parts, but he would not budge. I asked if there was anyone else I could speak with and he put me on hold for about five minutes. When he came back he said that the person was still on the phone and that they would call me back, probably in about ten minutes. I never heard back! I do not understand why they accomodate some subscribers and not others, especially when I have been loyal to them for so many years. it is hard to justify spending $700 for a receiver that does not work with MPEG 4 without the benefit of knowing their upgrade path.

    Rich
     
  15. May 22, 2005 #35 of 201
    datwell

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    richz: Well, you can see what finally worked for me! Give it a try and good luck!

    da Doug
     
  16. May 22, 2005 #36 of 201
    richz

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    Oops...I spoke too soon. I left them two phone numbers, my cell phone did not indicate that I have a message but I decided to check it anyway and there was a call back from them after all. I will call them and post my results here.
    Thanks, Rich
     
  17. May 22, 2005 #37 of 201
    Mark S.

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    Congratulations Doug...Welcome to the 942 Club!!! I'm loving mine. :)
     
  18. May 22, 2005 #38 of 201
    richz

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    I received a phone call back from Dish today form a very pleasent, helpful "executive supervisor" today. I am pleased to say that they offered me the 942 for $250, and I am looking forward to receiving it in a few days. She wanted me to trade in my old unit. I offered my very old dishplayer but she said that it was not necessary. I am looking forward to getting my new unit this week. Rich
     
  19. May 23, 2005 #39 of 201
    shugazer9

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    I am a longtime Dish customer who sold my 6000 a few months ago with the idea of upgrading to the 942. I previously called and tried to lease the 942, but was told i needed to wait six months. I e-mailed Dish and recieved a call today from a nice lady who offered to lease the 942 to me,, but only if I committed to 2 years with at least AT60.(I would theen also need to pay $5 lease fee, $5 DVR fee, $5 non-landline fee, etc....) I could handle the fees, but im not sure whwther i'll be staying in my current location for 2 years. Sigh...it's always something.
     
  20. May 23, 2005 #40 of 201
    lionsrule

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    I received the same company line as the guy above me. However, I did find out a few additional things. First, DISH is very close to ending this exception process for current customers. I was told that there are "too many customer asking to get the 942 for $250. Demand is outranking supply was the point I think. Also, I could NOT EVEN GET A GUESS for how a swap out might work when mpeg4 becomes prevalent.

    There is NO WAY that I'm going to throw away $250 just for the "right" to LEASE a box. I should not need to remind you that MOST MAJOR CABLE COMPANIES ARE leasing 2 tuner HDDVR's with ZERO "one time fee's". Dish and Direct have MAJOR business model flaws that are soon to be exposed once ALL cable area's are upgraded. I am NOT a cable fan. I HATE COMCAST and their laziness in upgrading our area over the last 3 years. I LOVE my 921 (for the most part) and I love getting high quality OTA HD signals for FREE!! I just wish dish would adapt the cable industries "give it away for free" policy of renting/leasing new tech boxes.
     

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