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Lease Vs Owned. --- Ebay.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by lowspeed, Oct 15, 2007.

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  1. MikeR7

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    I procured a brand new black HR20 on E-bay last spring when they were available for a short time, I knew it would be a leased box, and actually wouldn't want to own it. Had no trouble activating it.

    I bought a used HR10-250 late summer on E-Bay, had to buy a new access card from DIRECTV, but other than that it was not a problem, they told me I owned it when I activated it, and it works great.

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  2. lowspeed

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    I ordered 2 H20, payed 100bucks for both (shipped)
     
  3. Spike

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    I have bought into the lease program through ebay sellers. It can save you up to $100, if you are already a Directv subscriber. When I do so, I make sure that those boxes are factory sealed and I make sure I can call the office of the seller. That way I can make sure that they are who they say they are. I will only buy from an authorized Directv dealer that uses ebay.

    I have looked into a few boxes that weren't from authorized dealers before. But those never get very far, because if you ask to do a check on their box's id numbers through Directv, they generally back out of selling their item. There are very very few Directv MPEG4 HD DVR's that are legit for sale items on ebay. That is a fact. If they are selling it to OWN, I am always suspicious!!!
     
  4. CJTE

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    I didnt know the receiver could write back to the access card...

    The way it was explained to me was that there is non-volatile ram inside the receiver that will store PPV information, but it will only store up to 30/so movies before locking up.



    Also, if they were stored on the access card, you could pay $20 for a new access card, rather then who knows how much for PPVs
     
  5. randyk47

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    Speaking as one of those who bought an H20 off of eBay I'll never do it again, at least not under the present D* leasing policy. At the time I was a bit miffed that D* was going to leasing. Up until then I'd always owned my equipment. It just struck me wrong at the time. I bought it from an authorized D* dealer and paid slightly less than D* was offering. It never crossed my mind to call D* and see if I could negotiate a better price. I also, at the time, didn't understand I was going to pay either a lease fee or an additionally receiver fee whether I owned it or not. In fact, somehow at the time I thought I'd be paying both if it were leased which, of course, has turned out not to be true. At this point I own and have active an H10 and H20. I have an HR20 on the way from D* for basically the shipping and handling so eBay nor any other on line provider was a consideration. As long as I can strike a deal with D* it really doesn't make much difference to me whether I own or lease. I usually keep my equipment until it is obsolete, so much so that I have 3 stored away in my attic for no good reason. I do want to say, as I mentioned in an earlier post, that I bought a new unit from an authorized dealer and had no problem bringing it on line as a owned machine. My reasons for not going that way in the future have nothing to do with a bad experience.
     
  6. lowspeed

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    Well i got one of the boxes... and guess what it was made 2007... so right away i was saying to myself oh boy.

    So when i called directv they told me the box is leased and the people that have it on their account must return it or they will be panelized...

    Grr... NOW i need paypal dispute... we'll see how that goes.
     
  7. Terry K

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    I recently got an HR20 from a friend of mine and D* let me swap the card out of my HR10 to it and life was good. I gave them the RID and serial, and viola in about 5 minutes it was up and running.
     
  8. lowspeed

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    They btw insisted i would need a new card (it didn't come with one) and when i gave them the box id they told me they can't do a thing with it since its linked to another account.
     
  9. JohnH

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    I got a used HTL-HD recently and had to get a new card. When activated, it showed up as a leased unit on my account, but a few days later it switched to an owned status without any call about it. Now I added a couple of D10s (they were destined for the dump). They show up as leased. Strangely, they had never been activated and will likely remain as leased unless I get upity with them.

    BTW: The HTL-HD no longer has upgrade support on the satellites. So, beware, it may not work reliably.
     
  10. Tom B

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    If you hold on to the box till the penalty is posted to the seller's D* account, then you will be able to activate it as owned.
     
  11. Tom B

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    It seems to vary depending on what CSR you talk to. always thought that the card could not be moved to another card or account. Then one CSR let me move a card from one box on my account to another. A few months later, when I called to get a new card for a box I bought on ebay, the CSR said I could reuse the existing card. (And, NO, the PPV purchases did not transfer to my account. Everythingon the card was somehow reset.)
     
  12. Spike

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    Whenever I might buy a used directv receiver from ebay, I ask for the access card number before bidding. If they give it, I call Directv and run an account check based on the card number to see if the account is clean. If there is an unpaid balance, I will not bid on the ebay item. It avoids ebay disputes.
     
  13. dodge boy

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    I bought a new R15 on ebay and when I activated it I used the card from my Broke R15 (I threw it away) with the access card department and it is owned. I have a few old cards and some "virgin" cards laying around. when I activate new stuff I pull out one of my old ones and keep the new ones sealed.
     
  14. lowspeed

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    How long does that usually take ?
     
  15. lowspeed

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    The saga continues... The 2nd auction arrived and i open the box and instead of an H20 it was an H10.

    At this point i was flipping out. 2 auctions with duds.


    Luckily the guy was honest and he actually mistakenly sent me that instead of another box and he let me keep the H10 and promptly refunded me the entire transaction.

    for the 1st one paypal surprisingly sided with me right away and asked me to ship it back once tracking is confirmed i should get a refund.

    Let me just summarize the experience this way: "I will never purchase a directv box on ebay."


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  16. DishCSR

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    NO, cjte is slighty mis-informed, (i really hope this person doesn't work in tech support) lol

    ippv's are stored on the access card, always have been always will be,,if there is no phone line connected then the access card gets full and therefore would no longer allow ippv's, so customers would get an osd (i believe 733?), propmpting them to call in to directv, the csr should then advise customer that the access card is full (since no recent call back on receiver in question) and to plug in a phone line to "download' the ppv's, and then all will be well again for ippv ordering, the common misconception (even by dtv csr's) is that ippv cannot be utililzed without a phone line connected, this is simply not true, it's just that the access card would get full without a phone line, and the only way for the access card to "empty" itself is to have a ph ln connected again. when a recvr is returned, a ppv recovery is performed on the access card , not the recvr..even if the access card is kept to be used in the replacement recvr , the recovery comes from the access card , never the recvr....not sure where cjte got their info, but it's incorrect...
     
  17. CJTE

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    Well trip out on that.
    I'd suppose that the access cards could have non-volatile memory, similar to the SIM cards you'd find in a phone...

    And heyy, Why shouldnt I work in tech support?
    I was misinformed, assuming you're correct, I thank you for the information...

    BTW, I am a Private technical support "consultant"
     
  18. Soulweeper

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    What approach did you use to get that deal, if you don't mind me asking? I've been with them 10 years, always pay my bill on time, and couldn't get 2 CSRs to budge from the $299 tonight. I will not pay that to lease one. I can buy and own one for less. Just curious what you said.
     
  19. JLucPicard

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    I'd be interested to know how you could buy and own an HR20 for less? And if you can, why don't you go that route?
     
  20. randyk47

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    Jim - Well, it wasn't easy. A few weeks ago I struck a deal with a D* Retention CSR to get a Slimline and HD DVR for $199.95 plus shipping and handling. When the installer came out it was beyond his capability to install the new dish as it had to be moved to place that was too high, on too steep a roof for his company. Had to cancel both the dish and the HD DVR as I wasn't sure I'd be able to stay with D*. I found an independent installer a couple of weeks later (guy works on transmission towers normally so the location wasn't a problem for him) through a local home theater install company and got a Slimline installed. When I called back to D* to get the HD DVR the Retention CSR was a pill and would only offer the HD DVR for $299.95 plus S&H. I told her I'd gotten a better deal from them 4 weeks earlier but she had kind of a "take it or leave it" attitude and almost, though not quite, accused me of lying as she didn't see any combination of offers that could have gotten me that low. Of course, I'd just spent $400+ out of my own pocket (cost of dish, assorted piece parts, and labor) to get the new dish so I wasn't particularly happy. Asked to speak to a supervisor and got passed to a "Resolution" representative. I explained (in a nice, more or less uncomplaining way) what had happened and allowed as though I thought I'd shown good faith to continue D* by finding my own installer for what I admit was a tricky install. All I really expected, and would have settled for, was the original offer but the rep offered the HD DVR for only the shipping and handling. I'm scheduled to recieve it next Saturday (27 Oct). The HD DVR has already been charged and then credited back to my account with only the S&H charge showing. Now I'm wondering if I'll get the new HR21. :)
     
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