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leaving dish for direct tv next week

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by mkpolley, Oct 19, 2007.

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  1. brian188

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    It Is A Function Of The Forum Software To Prevent Screaming (Typing In All Caps)!

    This Post Has Been Written In All Caps.
     
  2. brian188

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    That is a great catch though LOL !rolling

    Getting back on point... I can't wait to hear the comments about the switch. I just joined D* (last month just before the HD explosion) from Comcrap and was teetering between E* and D*. I'm sure I made the right choice for me, but it's always good to hear the + & - first hand.
     
  3. James Long

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    Occasionally an "I'm leaving" post has merit ... perhaps there is a problem that can be solved or a misunderstanding and the person leaving might find out that they are better off giving the system they are leaving one more chance. But often it is just sour grapes complaining that serves no purpose but to trash a company and insult the millions of customers who have decided not to leave (plus those who have decided to make the opposite jump).

    If you are having trouble with the company post that ... there are people here with plenty of experience with trouble who can help you get a better viewing experience without the knee jerk "change providers" response. But just posting I'm leaving? What do you need a gold star? Can you not make a decision without a cheering squad? Are you the kind that burns bridges and cusses out the boss on your last day of a job never giving a thought to the future (where you may need that job again)? Or does insulting multi-billion dollar companies make you happy? Tilting at windmills rarely helps!

    Personally, I find the I'm leaving posts uninteresting and try to restrain myself from posting "good, bye!" in every such thread. For those who have a problem they WANT solved (without leaving) those threads are useful ... but otherwise you might as well post in the forum for the company you are moving to ... you will have a lot higher approval rating (more fanboys applauding you, if that is what you are seeking). :)

    BTW: This applies to people who are leaving D* for E* as well ... or D*/E* for cable/Fios/whatever's next.
    Constructive criticism is good ... whining, not so good.
     
  4. Deke Rivers

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    i kind of feel the same way with the "dont let the door hit you in ass on the way out" thing..
    but it would be interesting as someone else has posted is to have people who switch come back and let us know the pains if any of switching and the differences good or bad
     
  5. texaswolf

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    Get used to it...with the recent HD explosion, there will probably be a lot of leaving post...whether it's because of E* not putting up enough HD...or D* quality of HD...I think we will see a lot more...I just hope they do like mkpolley and give specifics on why and how the switch goes...so that way it is beneficial to all.
     
  6. texaswolf

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    How are you recording 3?
     
  7. jal

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    As well as the new HD channels, you will appreciate leaving E*'s nickel and diming of you. For example, with E* HD is $20 vs D* at $10 or $15. Oh, but lets not forget about E* extra $1 per HD receiver, so there's a few more bucks. Oh, and lets not forget about E* HD "enabling fee" if you choose not to get HD but you use the receiver for OTA as well as E * SD. Oh, and lets not forget about E* $35 "enabling" fee per receiver if you want to hook up an external drive. And, then there's the "per receiver" DVR fee, instead of D*'s one fee per house. All of this E*b.s. can add up fast.
     
  8. James Long

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    And, as noted, those people will be replaced by others. Sure, E* lost 680,000 subscribers in the 2nd quarter of 2007 (last quarter reported - D* lost 772,000) but they gained 850,000 subscribers to replace those people (D* gained 900,000). A net gain of 170k for E* and 128k for D*. I'm looking forward to 4Q results early next year to see if this "doomsday" scenario fails to play out like all the others. :)

    Two via satellite and one via OTA.

    D* makes their money too, just instead of "nickle and diming" they just charge the dollars up front. On average, D$ charges their customers $10 more per month than E* charges their subscribers ($76.43 vs $66.06). It helps that D*'s base price is higher!
     
  9. texaswolf

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    yeah D* upfront charge is what kept me away in the first place...and my point was you will see those post from both sides..not just E*.

    SO I can record A local and 2 Sat channels at once? Would have been nice to know when they installed it. Now are you still able to watch recorded shows while recording 3?
     
  10. James Long

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    Of course! You can actually watch TWO previously recorded shows (or the shows recording in progress, your choice) while recording three others (one on each TV or use PIP in single mode).

    Check out the 622 support forum for the "First Look" and other information. :)
     
  11. texaswolf

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    damn...of course i will have to tell the wife this is a new feature...since we have skipped some of her shows to record..."our shows"...:lol:
     
  12. James Long

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    WAF + 1 :D

    Another reason not to leave Dish. :lol:
     
  13. texaswolf

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    now i did say I liked the equipment better...just frustrated with my most watched channels not being matched in HD....although I have picked up quite a few shows on Discovery HD !
     
  14. normang

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    Yep, its a forum, however I just think people are looking for those who agree and justification with a choice they make, heaven forbid they just go out and do it.. I don't care if someone switches..

    The point of installation is the time, more often than not you have to take off work to meet an installer, it takes a couple hours to do or more. Your changing everything to switch, Dish's as well as recievers, so depending on where they are installed, there are potential repairs to fix mount holes for previous dish mounts, because they may not be able to use same mounts to attach the new Dish's.. And all for what? A few extra channels, the chance to find out that its really not that different; and in the long run, its still "just TV" and the different channels that you have you may not ultimately wind up watching routinely if at all, and E* in a few months has all the same channels you thought you switched for and any cost savings goes out the window in the next rate adjustment.

    What idle threats are you talking about??? I'm confused....
     
  15. FogCutter

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    I stumbled across this thread then did a silly thing -- I actually looked at my E* statement and compared it with service from D*. I can pick up five HD channels I'd love to have and save $45 a month for the first year, $35 thereafter. I was going to add an EHD to my 622; not any more.

    I found a business report where E* is hoping to be bought out, this could be a good time to jump ship.

    Am I missing anything? Is there some dark aspect of D*, hardware, software, content or service that I don't see and need to avoid?

    Thanks
     
  16. RAD

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    Dripping...
    The 811 I had was a WAF reason for leaving E*.
     
  17. normang

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    I think your savings math is flawed..

    Business reports are rumors, many of which never ever happen, and even if E* were to merge or be bought by someone else, nothing much is likely to change if anything at all other than name, and I doubt that would happen either because of name recognition..
     
  18. jrb531

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    What is wrong with people telling us they are switching and why? Maybe Dish needs to see more of these so they can wake up and try and save their company.

    No it's not gloom and doom for Dish by any stretch but I feel the very same way. As I said before, if not for the excellent 622 I would have been gone already.

    I started with D* many years ago and moved to E* for the past 8+ years.

    I have a home with 3 HD and 3 SD sets and I have a 622 and a 501 so I can only have 1 HD set. Sure I can add more HD boxes but the fees that Dish will charge me suck big time. Want to charge me a stupid DVR fee then why do I have to pay it for each box? I understand that D* charges a per account DVR fee (correct me if I'm wrong) and while I still disagree with the DVR fee at least I could add more HD DVR's without racking up $12 per box (DVR+rental fee)

    Some may call me cheap but the real issue is that I split my TV viewing from 3 different HD sets. They are only going one at a time and I feel that it's stupid to charge me for three separate boxes + three separate DVR fees all because I spend my time in different rooms of the house.

    Sure I can chain them all to one box (I do now with the 622 to a 2nd HD set) but one one is true HD.

    I have no issue paying a rental fee for each box. I understand that they are not going to give me three HD boxes for free but three separate DVR fees? Give me a break!

    Yes I could do one DVR and 2 non-DVR's but my wife only watching TV in one room so she wants a DVR and I need a DVR for the big set in the basement.

    The entire point of all of this is that some people (myself included) feel that many of Dish's fees are unjust and the DVR per box is one of them.

    Rental per box makes perfect sense but I cannot even come up with a single reason to charge a DVR fee let alone charge it for each box.

    This silly little fee is one of the main reasons I'm prob going to end up with D*

    The only reason I stay is the equipment issue. I hear all sorts of bad stories about those D* boxes.

    -JB
     
  19. mauijiminar

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    Well I just switch to D from E and I think the I have liked the change. Now I love sports and I miss the Baseball Extra Innings and I have always wanted the NFL Sunday Ticket. The HD DVR for D is in my opinon ok, maybe not as good as the VIP 622, BUT it is not bad enought to keep me from switching over. I like the HD channels and I think they are just ahead of E for now. My bill is going to around 40.00 cheeper per month with D. Anyway I am very pleased with the switch so far. I also know that D will have local HD channels Q1 of 2008.
     
  20. texaswolf

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    well...these for one:

    take time off work...unless someone else could be there....

    switching out dish's...why? You know how many houses I see with both companies dish's up...due to a switch at some point...not like it's a 10 foot dish in the back yard.

    and it's funny that a lot of people have notice savings if they switched...yet you say they are flawed....have you seen their statements? What you get charged could be different than what they get charged for the same package...all about when you sign up under what deal...so maybe THEY are saving...I'm sure there are D* customers who may get a better deal switching to E*...depending on when you got your package deal.
     
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