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Local Channels when tailgating

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mmaurin, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. mmaurin

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    Hi, my service at home is in the 70445 zip, I tailgate at LSU in 70808. I use an SD receiver and an 18 x 20 dish on a tripod when tailgating and have had no problem hitting the 101 satellite and getting my national channels both in the back yard in 70445 or when tailgating in 70808, but I can't get the locals. I understand that the locals are spot beamed off the 119 satellite. I haven't been able to get on the 119, neither in my back yard or tailgating. Questions: Do I need to get on the 119 to get my locals? Is my equipment capable of getting on the 119? When tailgating, would I be out of the New Orleans market and would Direct TV block locals when out of my service area. Thanks for any help you can provide. Please don't hold the LSU thing against me!!!
     
  2. carl6

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    If your locals are on 119, then you do need the Phase III 18x20 inch dish properly aligned for 101, 110 and 119.

    Locals are on spot beams, which means they are only available to you in your local market. Once you travel about 100 to 150 miles away from your local market, you approach the boundary of where you can receive them (the exact distance could be greater). If your locals at 70445 are the same locals as 70808 then you should get them. If not, then probably not.
     
  3. mmaurin

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    Thanks Carl6, not sure what you mean by Phase III. I know I have 3 lnb's. Is that a Phase III ? The description of the dish said it could get 101, 119 and 110 when I bought it. The locals in 70808 are indeed different than the locals in 70445 (I guess Baton Rouge market vs. New Orleans Market), but I know that the Baton Rouge locals are beamed off the 119 satellite also. Would I be able to pick up the Baton Rouge locals if I could connect to the 119 satellite when in Baton Rouge? Thanks again.
     
  4. HoTat2

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    A Phase III (or "P.III"), is the 18' x 20" elliptical dish you have now.

    And no, your tailgating setup is still tied to your home service address no matter where you travel with it, so your receiver will not be authorized to allow you access the Baton Rouge or any other out of market locals even though it can receive the spotbeam for them.

    As for not being able to receive 119, make sure your receiver setup is selected on the correct dish and the dish tilt setting for the location is correct.

    See dishpointer.com for Az, El. and proper tilt settings for the locale.
     
  5. mmaurin

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    Thanks very much. Yes, I believe I have the proper dish selected on the receiver. I have been able to get on the 101 satellite by just adjusting azimuth and elevation. But the screen show's big red X's under 119 and 110. I've never adjusted the tilt, and am not sure how to do this on this dish. But I will look into and try that. Thanks again.
     
  6. JosephB

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    If New Orleans and Baton Rouge are both on 119, I am willing to venture they're both on the same beam. Sounds like an install issue rather than being outside the spot. Doubly so since I re-read your post and notice that you can't get the locals when using your tailgating setup even at your house
     
  7. mmaurin

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    Thanks JosephB, Yes I'm going to try adjusting tilt and see if that helps. I'm actually going to be headed up your way next weekend to Tuscaloosa to tailgate when Bama plays LSU. CBS is going to be carryiny the game and I was hoping to be able to pick it up with my tailgating rig. Is Tuscaloosa in the same service area as Birminham? I notice that your locals are beamed on the 101 satellite and since I've had no trouble getting on 101, I was hoping I'd be able to get the game. Probably won't be able to do that either since I'm out of my service area?
     
  8. peds48

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    even if the were on the same spot beam, their receivers are not authorized to receive them, so it would not matter
     
  9. HoTat2

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    Yes, according to the transponder maps Tuscaloosa and Birmingham are in the same market. But as peds says, it's of no use to you as your tailgating receiver is only authorized to receive the local channels serving your home market address in the 70455 zip code area even if you are under the satellite footprint of the same or another spotbeam.

    Sorry;
     
  10. JosephB

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    Tuscaloosa is part of the Birmingham television market, so it's the same local channels. And our SD locals are on 101. Doesn't matter because no matter where you go physically, you're only going to be authorized for the locals where you actually live. The only way around it would be to get a separate RV account and then you could get NY/LA channels which are broadcast locally. I can go ahead and tell you, too, that the Baton Rouge spot will not reach all the way to Tuscaloosa, so you won't be able to pick up your Baton Rouge locals even if you straighten out your dish issue.

    I'd advise you to get an OTA tuner, but Tuscaloosa is pretty far out from the transmitters in Birmingham. ABC has a translator in Tuscaloosa, but CBS does not.

    Yes, I understand this, but he couldn't get the locals that he was supposed to get, and it was possible he was outside of the spot carrying his correct locals. He's authorized to get the Baton Rouge locals, so it would matter in that if he were tailgating in New Orleans, authorized for Baton Rouge, and they're on the same beam he should be able to get Baton Rogue while tailgating.
     
  11. peds48

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    As long as the TS wants to get their "authorized" locals then this is correct
     
  12. mmaurin

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    thanks so much everyone for your input. I'm gonna get out this weekend and test and will definitely let you know how it goes.
     
  13. mmaurin

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    Just set up in the backyard...and in less than 5 min's was on all 3 satellites with 98-100% reception watchin the Today show and other local stuff. You guys rock! I can't wait to get up to Baton Rouge and see if I can pick up locals. Still a little bummed I won't be able to get the game in Tuscaloosa...Maybe I'll start looking into cellular hotspots and streaming! Thanks again.
     
  14. longrider

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    Good news for you, I was researching this the other day but because I could not determine which spot beam Baton Rouge was on (I thought that was your home) I did not post it. The image below is the footprint of the N. O. spot beam and there is no doubt you will pick it up in Baton Rouge. You will also notice that the edge of the spot does cover Tuscaloosa but whether or not that would be enough signal to reliably view it I dont know.
     

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  15. JosephB

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    He actually has the reverse problem, he is looking to pick up Baton Rouge while he's tailgating in New Orleans. Given that spot, it's still 50/50 if BR locals are on it or not. Just need to look at the transponder maps.
     
  16. longrider

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    That is what I thought too which is why I didn't say anything yesterday but his last post said "I can't wait to get up to Baton Rouge and see if I can pick up locals." and Lacombe, LA is directly across the lake from New Orleans. That is why I assumed his home stations were New Orleans
     
  17. mmaurin

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    You right Longrider...I live in Lacombe and tailgate at LSU in Baton Rouge. So that is great news. Thanks so much for digging into this for me. And that glimmer of hope in Tuscaloosa is exciting too. So I will definitely bring the rig and try. Will let you know how it goes.
     
  18. mmaurin

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    I wanted to get back to this forum and let y'all know I was able to get all my local channels when I set up in Tuscaloosa. Apparently being on the edge of the spot beam for the New Orleans market (like Longrider said) was just enough for the satellite rig to work like a champ. Too bad lsu didn't play like one. Thanks again all for your help.
     
  19. longrider

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    Glad to hear it all worked out.
     

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