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Locals

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by ruralruss, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. ruralruss

    ruralruss AllStar

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    I know Dish has rules about who gets what locals but why can't they make exceptions. I live on a North and South road. North of me is Chattanooga, South is Atlanta. We visit Chattanooga often, we shop, eat and drink there as well. We prefer it to Atlanta and would like to our locals from there. We are 20 miles closer to Chattanooga than Atlanta. My neighbor is also on dish lives South of me by a quarter mile. Closer to Atlanta than me. He wants his locals from Atlanta but can only get them from Chattanooga. We are in the same county and state. So the person closer to Atlanta that wants Atlanta locals has to have Chattanooga locals and me who lives closer to Chattanooga and wants Chattanooga locals has to have Atlanta locals.
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    As far as I know, it isn't up to Dish. It's up to the broadcasters and the FCC.
     
  3. RaymondG@DISH Network

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    The FCC has set Designated Market Areas (DMAs). The locals that you receive are determined by your zip code, and what DMA your zip code is part of.
     
  4. joshjr

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    That is not true. Neilson Media Company defines the markets based on viewership. The FCC then says that is what we go by. The FCC does not determine the DMA's. There are changes once per year (In November) if there are any changes to make.
     
  5. levibluewa

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    ...and it only applies to the big 3 networks - ABC, CBS, and NBC plus FOX to protect the network-affiliate relationship...a relationship that perhaps had meaning when they were relying on cable to provide service...no longer needed...NY & LA O&Os can now cover the entire country. Let the affiliates survive on their own with reruns and local news.
     
  6. runner861

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    I tend to agree with you. What I really don't like is when a network affiliate picks up a second network on a subchannel, then receives exclusivity, knocking out a good neighboring distant station. The subchannel usually contains no additional local content. KSBW in Salinas started broadcasting ABC programming on its subchannel, knocking out KGO, the San Francisco affiliate some 85 miles away. KGO provided local coverage from the Bay Area and also from the Monterey-Salinas area, as well as maintaining a Sacramento bureau, providing coverage from the state capital. KSBW's answer to that is to simulcast the local news from its primary station (NBC) on its subchannel (ABC). KGO, while technically a distant, had been the de facto local ABC station for Monterey-Salinas for more than ten years, and had been viewed in that market via cable since the 1950s.
     
  7. boba

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    DISH already lost in court so they now live by the rules.
     
  8. ruralruss

    ruralruss AllStar

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    But we are in the same zip code!
     
  9. sregener

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    Last I checked, it was by county. Are you in the same county? If so, then someone is getting the wrong channels.
     
  10. ruralruss

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    We are in the same county, they are just 1/4 mile or less south of us.
     
  11. joshjr

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    His original post said same county. That does not make sense. You are correct that it does go by county. I live in NE Oklahoma and my zip code has two counties. Mine gives me local channels from Kansas and Missouri and the other county in my zip gets the Tulsa local channels. Sucks but that is the way it is. Dont feel like putting up a huge antenna to pull Tulsa in through OTA. If it was me, I would call the FCC and confirm with them which DMA he belongs in and then call his provider back. I will list my FCC contact that can answer that question below.

    Margo Davenport FCC - Margo can be reached at 202-418-2949. She should have no problem at all telling you what DMA you belong to.
     
  12. Michael P

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    Counties with just one or perhaps two exceptions are in the same DMA. If your friend with the same zip code is also in the same county, then it's true one of you are getting the incorrect locals. OTOH zip codes that straddle county lines can be divided using the "+4" part of the zip code that narrows the scope down to your neighborhood.

    The exception I am aware of in in New Your state where one county between Rochester and Utica is split down the middle.
     
  13. jsk

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    Would you be able to get the channels that you want OTA? If so, which receiver do you have? Some of them will allow you to integrate the OTA into your guide seamlessly.
     

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