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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by jon99, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. Oct 8, 2011 #401 of 691
    Tom Robertson

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    Obviously the questions were not worded in that fashion.

    I'm also pretty certain this is not a well wanted channel.

    So DIRECTV has a number of choices: Run this as a local to Texas channel, run this as a national channel, not run this at all.

    The financial numbers will determine how DIRECTV will consider Longhorn. My sense is DIRECTV isn't very interested at all, there just isn't enough money interest either in adsales or viewers willing to pay.

    So I have no expectation of Longhorn on DIRECTV. Well... maybe if ESPN drops its rates by 30% and requires it to be included. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  2. Oct 8, 2011 #402 of 691
    mnassour

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    Actually, I don't think DirecTV (or any other provider) had that first choice. Disney's terms were to run it as a national, period, as part of the basic package, period. Given those terms, DirecTV made it pretty clear early on that it had little...if any...interest. Completely understandable.

    And I don't think you'll see a cut in ESPN rates anytime soon! :lol:

    mn
     
  3. Oct 8, 2011 #403 of 691
    Tom Robertson

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    Very good points. DIRECTV had a choice to offer to Disney. Disney had the choice to turn that down. And DIRECTV likely won't run it nationally since, ESPN likely won't cut their rates. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  4. Oct 9, 2011 #404 of 691
    mws192

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    Well, while FiOS carries it nationally, it is not on "basic" outside of Texas. I believe the equivalent on DirecTV would be LHN in the Choice package in Texas and Premier only (not Sports Pack) everywhere else.


    "FiOS TV Ultimate HD subscribers outside of Texas can watch LHN on Channel 320. In Texas, FiOS TV Prime HD, Extreme HD and Ultimate HD subscribers can watch LHN on Channels 79 (standard definition) and 579 (high definition)." http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2011/08/25/verizon-lhn/
     
  5. Oct 9, 2011 #405 of 691
    Lord Vader

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    If this was the case, then why did DISH pull the Disney channels but retain ESPN?
     
  6. Oct 9, 2011 #406 of 691
    Shades228

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    Disney pulled Disney not DISH. They pulled the HD versions of the channels that were not covered in the current agreements. DISH was basically broadcasting something they technically didn't have the right to. Next contract negotiations all of that will come up which is why DISH is putting feelers out for ESPN removing.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2011 #407 of 691
    dsw2112

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    Does anyone know when the current Dish contract runs through?
     
  8. Oct 9, 2011 #408 of 691
    Shades228

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    You can check http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=196641 to see if someone has posted the date. I haven't read the whole thread.
     
  9. Oct 9, 2011 #409 of 691
    DawgLink

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    Well wait...who is clamoring for this at all?

    I have seen the programming rumors and/or additions...yet...I still am not seeing why a single non-Texas fan and/or most Texas fans would watch it.

    What am I missing?
     
  10. Daniel

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    I don't get it, where is the outrage about DirecTV carrying BYU Television (channel 374) as a national channel. It is basically the same thing as Longhorn Network, with more religion thrown in. I've never actually watch that channel, but I don't mind it being there for those folks that are interested.
     
  11. RAD

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    Dripping...
    How much, it anything, does DIRECTV have to pay BYU to carry the channel? That's the issue, cost, ESPN/Disney is asking way more then almost any other provider is willing to pay.
     
  12. Daniel

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    So, you are only trying to protect DirecTV from overpaying for Longhorn. You're okay with the concept as long as it doesn't cost DirecTV too much.

    Personally, I don't think DirecTV needs our protection. They are big boys and can handle the negotiations without our input. And trust me, they don't want our input and couldn't care less about our individual opinions. DirecTV will try to pay as little as possible and ESPN will try to get as much as possible. And, since the DirecTV/ESPN contract is up soon anyway, Longhorn will be rolled into those negotiations and DirecTV and ESPN will eventually agree to an amount.

    Personally, I don't really blame DirecTV for not including it now, in spite of how much I want this channel. Why have a separate negotiation on this one admittedly small channel when you would just have to open it all up again next year. Better to save Longhorn as a bargaining chip when the main event happens.
     
  13. RAD

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    Excuse me, where did I say I was protecting DIRECTV from anything? You asked a question and I gave an answer that DIRECTV has said why they don't carry LHN.
     
  14. tonyd79

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    The BYU Channel is a RELIGIOUS channel with sports thrown in. Comparing it to the Longhorn Network is silly. Compare it to EWTN or World Harvest or Daystar. Not LHN.
     
  15. adkinsjm

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    BYUTV is offered free of charge to providers. Why does that fact have to be repeated? If LHN was free, DirecTV would pick it up.
     
  16. espnjason

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    I shouldn't have to repeat myself on this thread.

    But if LHN were to somehow convert to the Big XII network, it would stand a -Significantly- stronger chance of carriage on D*, just think of all those D* subscribers in Oklahoma, Kansas, and everywhere in Texas outside Austin that would all of a sudden be included in all of this as opposed to being disenfranchised.

    Since DirecTV is a NATIONAL television provider, among its core business is to seek out programming that would appeal to a significant portion, not just alumni of one large school or the populace in a medium sized city.

    Now I am certain that if LHN transitions into the Big XII network, there would be more Longhorn games than originally planned, not just two football games and eight men's basketball games. Ever think of that? That can be a real win-win if done right.
     
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    When I read fans would be willing to pay extra to watch LHN, I wonder what the PPV buy rates rates are for other college teams, since those fans would say they are willing to pay as well.
     
  18. Daniel

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    I didn't ask why DirecTV didn't carry it, I know why, I asked where was the outrage about the very similar BYUTV. You're the one that brought up the cost in a way that seemed like you were worried about DirecTV's bottom line.

    I don't really care how much DirecTV is paying for BYUTV or Longhorn, quite frankly it is none of my business. I pay DirecTV for a wide variety of channels at a set amount that I know will go up every year. What they have to pay for each of those channels is immaterial to me. Like most people, as long as I get the channels that I want, I really don't care.

    Look, there are a lot of channels that I pay for that I never watch, but I understand that there must be someone watching them. One man's trash is another man's pleasure and all that. I just don't understand the hate when it comes to Longhorn when there is already an existing example carried nationally with BYUTV. And ESPN isn't even demanding that Longhorn be carried in the same manner. They are just wanting it carried the same way as all of the other regional sports channels.
     
  19. zimm7778

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    Because like people have already stated, BYU is FREE to Directv so they aren't passing any programming cost to you. Plus it is 98% religion, not sports. If BYU was asking for $3 per sub it might not be there. Yes, I pay for channels I don't watch also but the idea of paying for something so niche it's down to 1 university makes my skin crawl. It does not belong in a national base package, I don't even feel like it belongs in Sports pack to be honest with you. If anything it should be a stand alone premium as it is right now.
     
  20. Daniel

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    I would be fine with going a al carte on all of the channels, just so I would have to pay for junk like TruTV, E! and Shorts, but that isn't the way the system works at the moment. We all have channels that we don't like. When Longhorn is carried, it will be carried like any other regional shorts channel, which it is.

    BTW, in looking at the schedule of BYUTV, it seems like it carries just as much sports as it does religion, if not more. With a nice spattering of self help, reality shows, BYU academics and, oddly enough, old Disney movies.

    BTW, do we have a source for the 'FREE' claim? I couldn't find an official source for that anywhere.
     

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