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Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Jason Nipp, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    I got the Cliff-notes version of the Guide Greg.... On DVD. :rolleyes:

    Haven't sat down to watch it yet though. Having too much fun filling up the 16gb SDHC card. :grin:
     
  2. Richard King

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    Isn't a new toy fantastic. I am sure you will have tons of fun for quite some time playing with it. Keep working at it. I still do most of my shooting in full auto mode.
     
  3. tcusta00

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    Good book :D

    Can't adjust many (if any) settings in full auto mode on most cameras, which is why I recommended P... Still fairly automatic but lets you control ISO and WB.
     
  4. Rob-NovA

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    When I got started, I found Scott Kelby's Digital Photography series a big help (Amazon link here). I also took a intro to photography class at my local art school. I've learned an amazing amount in a fairly short time (I've only been really serious at this for the last 18 months or so!). The class forced us to shoot fully manual and that was a real eye opener. Made me really appreciate the skills film photographers have and the conditions they had to learn in. We're spoiled with digital! I now shoot mostly aperture priority and change aperture to suit my composition (depth of field). I'll switch to shutter priority if I'm shooting my daughter or sports. I've also heard good reviews of Bryan Peterson'swork.
     
  5. Grentz

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    You generally dont have to worry about WB too much either if you start shooting in RAW (which I would highly recommend once you get comfortable with the camera a bit more). WB is fully adjustable in PP (post processing) on the computer if you shoot in RAW. RAW is just a straight dump of the sensor data that has the in camera parameters applied as attributes. Unlike with jpg, these attributes can easily be changed in PP on your computer with absolutely no loss in IQ. With jpg, you cannot change the attributes as they are applied directly to the image data by the camera.

    The main thing this applies to is WB, but RAW also tends to help get the most out of dynamic range and sharpness.

    Best of luck shooting, it is always fun to have a new toy and photography is a fun mix of technical and artistic sides that you can continue to advance in for a long time. I have spent years reading and learning, but I still am not even close to learning it all :p
     
  6. Rob-NovA

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    Grentz, in general I agree with you, but I'm also a big believer in getting the results you want pretty close in camera. WB is one of those. If you can set that right from the get go, you can avoid a whole lot of post processing later on.

    Other thing to note about RAW versus JPEG is that if you've been shooting JPEG for a while, the RAW file will appear to be "flat". Most cameras do a little bit of JPEG processing and will sharpen the image and punch up the color a bit. The details are there in the RAW image, but usually need to be tweaked a bit in a post processor. If you use PhotoShop or Lightroom, it's a pretty easy process.

    Oh and RAW files are a LOT bigger than JPEGs, so keep that in mind too. But the OP has a 16GB card and that really won't be an issue. :D
     
  7. tcusta00

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    +1000!!! I hate post-processing. :)
     
  8. Cholly

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    your later pictures are looking good, Jason! Keep experimenting. The more you shoot, the more confident you'll become. I have to confess that I do most of my shooting in Program mode, too.
    BTW, I assume you got Nikon's Picture Project with your camera. It's quite good, and from my point of view, easier to use than Photoshop Elements. (I have a whole bunch of photo processing apps, and bounce from one to the other.)
     
  9. CoriBright

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    I'm all Canon.... Rebel XSi, S51S and an ancient SD400 for when I need something really really small.
     
  10. Grentz

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    True, I tend to get it close in camera, but still you dont have to be worried about it too much as you can change it later if necessary.

    To get the most out of your images, you really do have to do some PP and WB usually needs a bit of a tweak as with your camera you will get close, but not always right on. Even the pros have to tweak WB a bit in most cases and it is not that big of a deal. If you use something like the WhiBal it is extremely easy to set WB in PP too. WB is extremely easy to set in a good program, for example in photoshop or lightroom you just use the eye dropper, click on your white or neutral spot in the image, and bam you are done (you can even do a whole set of images at once if they are in similar lighting). You can also use the slider and tweak as necessary or in some programs even use the automatic setting. Takes just a couple of seconds and is frankly one of the easiest things to do in PP.

    I dont really see why people get so scared of PP, with a good program it is easy and many times mostly automatic (Lightroom applies my defaults and then I do small tweaks as necessary to the better images that I want to print/show/etc.). It lets you get the most from your pictures and really bring them up to the next level. If you think those great pictures you see in print/galleries/etc. are straight out of the camera you are going to be very disappointed by your results.

    But to each their own, we all have our own ways of going about things and that is perfectly fine, part of the joy of photography is finding your work flow. I dont expect everyone to do it the way I do it and at the same time I like to stay open and learn from others workflows ;)
     
  11. Jason Nipp

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    Here's a few I had fun with.

    They were shot in full auto with a 55-200mm lens. They are resized only, it's not a joke, I really took these today.
     
  12. Richard King

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    Feeling a little squirrelly today??? I hope you thanked him for his service to his country. ;)
     
  13. Ron Barry

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    I would second the Kelby books. I have volumn I and II. Also, Jason I would suggest getting on flickr, smugmug or some other site. It is nice to post pictures and then point to them so that people can see the settings.

    I almost never shoot in creative modes. I normal shoot either Av or Tv depending on what I am shooting or M if I am doing something using the flash. Right now my flash skills still suck.

    I also would suggest listening to the tips from the top floor podcast. keeps those creative juices flowing and I have learned a lot from that show.

    The bottom line though is.. Experiment and shoot a lot of pics.
     
  14. Rob-NovA

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    I see on Amazon they're listing a Volume 3 for pre-order. Haven't looked to see the ToC though.

    One thing I would recommend to anyone who's looking at Flickr, Smugmug, etc. is to learn how to watermark your photos, especially if you're making them available to the world. I've been seeing way too many instances of people lifting photographs and claiming them as their own. You can also look into registering your copyrights as well.

    Thanks for the heads up on the podcast. I have a huge list of photography related blogs in my blog reader, need to look at this one too.
     
  15. Jason Nipp

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    I took about 3 shots before I even realized the squirrel was there Richard.
     

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