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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by barney34, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. Jan 8, 2010 #1 of 26
    barney34

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    ordered 3 DVR's to replace standard receivers. The 9 day install time expired and this morning the tech called and said "are you really getting 3 DVR's" yes "well if these are upstairs your going to have fish the wall and thats a significant charge" I said cancel. How many DVR's do I have to order to ensure I get the SWM R16 so I dont get a significant charge.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2010 #2 of 26
    barney34

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    are there any independent contractors that will install whatever dish I need to get for SWM and the SWM8?
     
  3. Jan 8, 2010 #3 of 26
    tcusta00

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    Only new customers will qualify for the SWM LNB, so unfortunately your only option is to buy it yourself or find a local independent (as you've asked) that will do it. Look for satellite installers in your yellow pages and I'm sure someone will do it for you. It may cost you out of pocket, though.

    The rules for SWMs are stickied at the top of this very forum: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=162731
     
  4. Jan 8, 2010 #4 of 26
    barney34

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    That thread is very helpful. I have a Phase III Dish with two feeds into a S-2180-CE. Every current run is SD receiver or D10 DVR or D15 with one feed.

    Am I understanding correctly that the SWM8 does not work with the Phase III which is not a Slimline dish?

    "The SWM8 is fed by running all 4 lines from a legacy Slimline LNB to the 4 main inputs on the SWM,"
     
  5. Jan 8, 2010 #5 of 26
    tcusta00

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    You need a new dish no matter what since you're going HD.

    From there you have two options though:

    1. Slimline with the SWM LNB (where SWM is built into the LNB on the dish). Four wires come out of the LNB, with one going to each of the receivers.

    2. Regular Slimline and purchase the SWM8 switch which would be installed somewhere in your home. Four wires into the switch from the dish, one wire to each receiver.
     
  6. Jan 8, 2010 #6 of 26
    veryoldschool

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    A SWM8 will work with a phase III dish, "but" not with the receivers you have.
    If you're adding SWM receivers, then you would want to have a dish that also gets the new HD programing, wouldn't you?
     
  7. Jan 8, 2010 #7 of 26
    veryoldschool

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    OOPS!!! single coax output, which can be split to four receivers.
     
  8. Jan 8, 2010 #8 of 26
    barney34

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    Thank you so much for helping.

    If Im not going HD just updating SD to SD DVR's do I need a new dish and is two wires from the DISH to the SWM8 ok.
     
  9. Jan 8, 2010 #9 of 26
    veryoldschool

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    Depending on where your local SD channels come from, you may need four cables running from the phase III to the SWM8.
    SD to SD DVR will need the R-16 DVR to work with the SWM.
     
  10. tcusta00

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    Right, doh! :lol: Can you tell which one of these I don't own? :lol:
     
  11. tcusta00

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    Sorry, I misread your first post and thought you were getting HD DVRs.
     
  12. hilmar2k

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    That is not true. I was swapped out to SWM a few months ago, and I am very far removed from a new customer.

    It may generally be true, but it is certainly not an absolute.
     
  13. barney34

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    I was going to purchase the R16's from an online retailer. I live in Atlanta so I dont think i need but one satellite maybe the 101.

    with the existing Phase III and two cables from it do I need anything else hardware wise except the SWM8 and maybe power for the SWM8?
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    It really comes down to the installer and whether he has/can make the change.

    Now to the OP:
    The DirecTV system isn't setup for using SWM with SD only, so while this can be done, it will be at your own expense and you'll need to plan out everything yourself and then have it done.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    SWM8 + PI 28/29 [power unit some call it a 28 and some a 29 volt].
    The SWM8 has 2 outputs, so you'll need splitters to split these to all your R16s. I use these: http://www.a1components.com/itemdisplayn.aspx?item=4349

    But you can use any 2-2300 MHz splitter.
     
  16. barney34

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    Let me see if I got all this

    I need:

    From the dish I go into two 5-2300 splitter.
    No I have 4 feeds two from 13v 101 and two from 18v 101 and one of each go to the s-2180-ce and to the SWM8.

    Feed legacy equipment from the s-2180-ce and SWM ready equipment from the SWM8

    Do I need terminators for the open ends or does it come with the SWM8?

    Currently I receive all the channels with just the two wires from the Dish so I think im good there.

    Kind of like this link but without the 5lnb

    http://www.weaknees.com/pdf/swm-wb68.pdf
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    Houston we have a problem.

    Dish
    || <- one 13 & one 18 volt
    SWM8 -PI- splitters to all SWM receivers
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    three outputs for any legacy [non SWM] receivers
     
  18. RobertE

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    You were an exception to the rule. We are hearing rumors that techs will be terminated if they install a SWiM when the workorder does not call for it. DirecTv's Order Management Group, will NOT change to a SWiM.

    While I'm happy that YOU got what you wanted, posting that you did, can lead to unrealisted expectations of others.

    Again you were the EXCEPTION, not the rule.
     
  19. barney34

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    The link says 5-2300 do I need 2-2300 I see on the forums where 5-2300 will work or should I look for 2-2300?
     
  20. barney34

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    thank you so much
     

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