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Major Crimes

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by mreposter, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. makaiguy

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    Modern script theory seems to be that we need to have seconary parallel plot lines involving the main character's personal lives, in order to make them seem more like "real people" to us. You see this on all sorts of programs. For the Closer, we saw Brenda's interaction with Fritz and her parents. For Major Crimes, this is what they came up with for Raydor. Unless and until they come up with some other personal life scenarios for Raydor, my guess is we're stuck with this story line.
     
  2. phrelin

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    Yes, that does seem to be a trend. But if I have to put up with it, I think I'd rather we follow bits of Provenza's and Flynn's personal lives which would, I think, create sitcom-like story arcs.
     
  3. TBoneit

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    Hopefully they'll dump the kid. If they keep dragging in the Kid and the letter writer I'll be gone.
     
  4. 1953

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    IMO, I believe some viewers are over sensitive regarding the troubled teens involvement in the show. This is a subplot that shows the positive side of policing and youth rehabilitation. In fact, I have a friend who as a long ago teen was walking on the wrong side of the law. Typical story, broken home, family violence, acting out teen. One day that teenager was arrested by a caring policeman. When the teen was put in foster care the arresting officer and his wife take her in and gave her a true family for many years. That saved my friend. My point is the sub-plot on Major Crimes is very realistic.
     
  5. phrelin

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    Just bumping this up to remind everyone that TNT is running some new episodes of "Major Crimes" starting tonight.
     
  6. Drucifer

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    This is why I try not to delete a record series when a show goes on a hiatus.
     
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  7. yosoyellobo

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    Serial link working like a charm. All set to record. Thanks anyway.
     
  8. TomCat

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    Well, I guess that didn't go quite as expected.

    Sorry for ressurecting an old thread, but the proof is in the pudding, and MC is the most-watched show on TNT, which is having a banner year.

    Many did not like the "Rusty" story line, but they have done an excellent job with that. It seems like a strong and vital element. I think the show would be a lot narrower and just a predictable procedural without that, and it allowed us to warm up to Raydor, who was a pretty cold character at first. And I think the kid has been a great character, in spite of his storyline seeming at first like it might have been out of place in a procedural.

    I think they also beat the odds; The Closer was somewhat of an ensemble show, but it always also was led by a star, who was a 900-lb gorilla that drove all plot lines. It would have been expected that the spinoff would be a pale imitation without her (and she was really terrific, no question), but with no more Brenda Lee Johnson getting in the way, this show has flourished. Tough to do when you lose two main players like her and J.K. Simmons.

    I was not sure I would be able to stay with it, especially a spinoff that is pretty much (at first) the same show minus its two biggest stars. But it has become one of my favorite shows, and it seems to just get better all the time. Today I saw the episode where they chased child abductors, from probably a few weeks ago. There is a scene where Fritz provides a kill shot that is edited so damned professionally, that I had to watch it a half dozen times, and was blown away each time.

    Again, I think you have to tip your hat to James Duff, who I consider among the most talented writer/producers working. He can take any group of actors and writers and get the best out of them. I am in complete awe of how great this guy is.

    Interesting fact: Producer/Creator James Duiff married Philip Keene (who plays Buzz in both series) in 2013.
     
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  9. 1953

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    "Spoiler Alert"

    The only disappointment was how the season ended with a somewhat typical "killer breaks out and is on the loose.". Now there is the renewed threat to Rusty and obliviously the public. Sorta hyped up drama. Still big fans of Major Crimes.
     
  10. TomCat

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    Thanks for the spoiler.
     
  11. 1953

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    Sorry
     
  12. spartanstew

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    I keep thinking/hoping that Rusty will get killed, but it keeps not happening.
     
  13. yosoyellobo

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    I have no problem with Rusty. AD Rios on the other hand would be a better candidate to be bump off.
     
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    I enjoy this show very much, except for "Crusty". My poor wife listens to me bitch and moan about him every episode.
     
  15. Drucifer

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    I like the combo of personalities. I reminds me of a few office experience I went thru during my career.
     
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  16. jimmie57

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    I fast forward thru most of the scenes that he is in.
     
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  17. TomCat

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    In the spirit of full disclosure, there were also, IMHO, a lot of awkward things about the "Two Options" episode. It had a ton of action and was pretty good at the procedural part of illustrating how modern law enforcement entities are structured and how they work together (or don't), and was very tech-heavy, very "2014".

    But my sneaking feeling is that the "guest" appearances here were calculated to try to build a new narrative around Fritz, along with Laurie Holden, Lindsay Price, two SWAT officers, and some of the other peripheral characters. It felt very much like a test balloon, a try for a spinoff of the spinoff. I have not seen eps after this, so it is speculation that has no basis at this time (please no more spoilers).

    As such, there were a lot of scenes that were written to that end, and did not move the actual story along very well. It also made telling the story very awkward. I always find it to be something that greatly undermines what the writers could have done or their vision when a big guest star is slated, or a network or production company dictates that the show will become a temporary platform for trying out spinoff ideas, throwing everything at the wall with out regard for the characters and narrative, just to see what might stick.

    If they wanted to build a new narrative around a strong character, I think they missed the boat. In 2006, Ray Wise, the great character actor (returning as Leland Palmer in the new Twin Peaks) played a "Better call Saul"-type of lawyer on two eps of The Closer who came in and really chewed up the scenery. Between his delivery and the great lines they wrote for him I was really hoping to see a lot more of that character, and was thinking at the time that he would be a natural for a spinoff.

    MC is also not perfect on its own, they are hampered by a small, TNT-like budget, and the music is always lame and predictable, and never has it really supported the show well. The music for The Closer, same budget, I imagine, was a little better, as they used a bit of a twangy, back-country approach to support the history of the character Brenda Lee Johnson.

    There are obvious dramatic mistakes in execution (you can't reshoot on a small budget), but the writing, acting, producing is still first-rate, as are the scripts. Many will disagree with this point, but in my experience "Rusty" has won me over. I really can relate to his character and his story, and the actor is quite talented in making me want to root for his character. He's a terrific kid just trying to navigate the aftermath of a horrific upbringing, and I would adopt him in a second.
     
  18. Red Orc

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    Yeah he's goten a lot more tolerable but I still am really not that crazy about Rusty.
     
  19. phrelin

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    TNT has just announced the "Winter Premier" date which will be Monday, Feb. 15.
     
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