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Making the Jump to FiOS from DIRECTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Reaper, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Nov 19, 2008 #61 of 172
    Steve

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    Your 9 experts claim that you can't deliver 100 mpbs bandwidth over a 250' foot copper cable into the home? /steve
     
  2. Nov 19, 2008 #62 of 172
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    There is one thing you are going to have to get used to as a former D* subscriber: when you call Fios with a problem they are actually interested in helping you. Fios will send out a tech who actually knows something and has some interested in solving your problem. Yep, Fios has honest-god customer service. This will be a HUGE change from D* of course and will take some getting used to. Good luck I wish I could follow you.
     
  3. Nov 19, 2008 #63 of 172
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    If they all did say that I would like to know where they received their education and training. I wonder if some are confusing UTP with Coax. While you can still do 100mpbs over UTP it is not as capable as Coax.
     
  4. Nov 19, 2008 #64 of 172
    dhhaines

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    Yep... the cost is the reason I didn't even consider Verizon for TV when they hooked up my FIOS internet. Which is screaming by the way compared to the Comcast cable I did have.
     
  5. Nov 19, 2008 #65 of 172
    rocket69

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    With fios you will get better picture quality on your hd then direct. Dish picture quality is is better then directs at the moment unless you have a HR23 then its on par with dish. Also dish caries most of those chanels you are missing some of those max chanels wont come out till dec/jan for direc/dish.

    One thing Fiso has that you might not like is you billing. Good luck on having the same amount billed every month with out suprises
     
  6. Nov 19, 2008 #66 of 172
    Steve

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    Cat 7 hasn't been formally approved, but it's actually spec'd for 100 gbps(!) over 300 foot cable run lengths. That may be even greater than fiber over short distances! :lol: I believe fiber is 2.5 gbps over long distances. /steve
     
  7. Nov 19, 2008 #67 of 172
    narrod

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    I've been retired for almost four years so I'm not current on what is now possible but I know what we could do five years ago and 100mbps was not a problem.
     
  8. Nov 19, 2008 #68 of 172
    Reaper

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    Yes, that's true but for those five months out of the year I would still be "saving" $30/month over what I'm paying now.
     
  9. Nov 19, 2008 #69 of 172
    Reaper

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    Yes, I plan on suspending my D* account when it's not NFL season. This will always make it easy for me to go back to D* as my primary service if I want to in the future. I've done this before; I had E* as my primary provider for a couple of years until they dropped the VOOM Networks.

    FiOS has a 12 month commitment, although I can cancel at no cost within the first two weeks.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2008 #70 of 172
    jpl

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    I'll actually go back to the OP's posting. First off, I came from DirecTV to FiOS as well. I've had FiOS internet for almost 3 years - even if you don't opt for their TV service, I would still highly recommend the internet connection. I have their 20/5 service, and it's fast as hell, consistent as anything (I get over 20Meg down no matter when I'm on line - every time I run a speed test I get that speed and more). The upload speed comes in around 4.5 - 4.7 (apparently that's pretty normal for their 5 meg service. Their service is really rock solid, too. I've had a whopping total of 1 internet outage in the last 3 years. And that was a short one. Oh and they currently do no throttling (that 20 meg is 20 meg for me... no bursting... no throttling), and with no download caps.

    About a year and a half ago I switched to FiOS TV, and I really like it. Granted, it's not for everyone. If you're into specialty sports packs (e.g. NFL ST), FiOS isn't (currently) the best place to be. The PQ really is really amazing (they've since made a recent change with regard to SD feeds on their HD boxes, though, to soften the picture - they claim that their focus groups have shown that consumers prefer it - in a future s/w release they're going to give us the ability to adjust those settings).

    I would recommend doing what one of the posters mentioned - it's what I did - suspend your DirecTV service for a while to see if you like FiOS. I also believe that Verizon has a trial period. This has changed over time - at one point it was a full 90 days. I don't know where it currently sits, so you may want to ask about that.

    The two areas where Verizon needs work, in my opinion:

    1) Ordering - I tell people to confirm their order a day or so after they place it. When I ordered TV service, I did that, and was really confused. The ONLY thing they got right on the order - the date of the install... everything else was wrong.

    2) Billing - This HAS improved considerably, but keep an eye on your bills. Random, phantom charges have been known to crop up. For example, when I made one recent change, they signed me up for their internet security package, which I never ordered.
     
  11. Nov 19, 2008 #71 of 172
    Reaper

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    There is a one year commitment with FiOS and the price is guaranteed for that period. After that, we'll see.
     
  12. Nov 19, 2008 #72 of 172
    VaJim

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    IMO this switch can be summed up in 2 points:

    1. FIOS = NO NFL Sunday Ticket:mad:

    2. In a year or so :confused: this whole issue about who has the most HD won't matter. More like, who has the most channels period and then you still find junk channels only then you can watch your junk in HD.:rolleyes:
     
  13. Nov 19, 2008 #73 of 172
    Reaper

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    I only have a single TV so this isn't an issue for me (I'm married, what can I say?).

    FiOS does offer a Home Media HD DVR that can service multiple TVs for $20/month.
     
  14. Nov 19, 2008 #74 of 172
    Steve

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    You'll probably actually only go up about $15-$20 /month on the TV part of the "triple play" after that first year.

    I believe the only break you're getting now is the $47.99 "essentials" package for $30-$35 or so.

    You still need to add on to that the $10 month for the "extreme HD" channels, if you want them in addition to the HD's in the "essentials" package. Then add whatever premiums you want (HBO, SHO, et al.), plus $16/month for each HD DVR, $10/month for each HD STB and/or $7/month for each SD STB.

    If you want MRV, you pay $20/month for the host DVR, and $10/month each for the HD client boxes. I believe you can have up to 3 clients, so $50/month for 4 box MRV in HD. /steve
     
  15. Nov 19, 2008 #75 of 172
    Reaper

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    FiOS is offering a $99/month phone/TV/Internet package that includes the Extreme HD package. Premium movie channels are free for the first 90 days and $30/month after. I only need a single HD DVR so that's $15/month.

    Right now I'm paying $85 for phone and Internet and about $125 for D*, for a combined cost of $210.

    With FiOS I'll be paying $129 for the first 90 days and about $144 after.
     
  16. Nov 19, 2008 #76 of 172
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    I have to agree, I didn't get involved, but just reading all this has helped me get through a boring afternoon at work. I felt like I was watching one of those election debates. :lol:
     
  17. Nov 19, 2008 #77 of 172
    VaJim

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    ...what????:confused:

    How is that going to save you money?:confused:
     
  18. Nov 19, 2008 #78 of 172
    jpl

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    Since there are some questions about this, here's my take on the pricing. They're offering really great bundles right now. I just upgraded to their new extreme HD bundle. Prior to that I had a different bundle which gave me:

    - Premier TV service (now defunct)
    - 10/2 internet
    - Freedom essentials phone

    Total: $105/month for a 1 year contract (note, this obviously is the base price - doesn't include hardware, taxes, and other fees).

    I've since upgraded to the new HD Extreme bundle which gives me:

    - Extreme HD TV service (which gives you access to every non-premium HD and SD channel - and also, their sports pack is now gone - all of those channels are now rolled into this TV package).
    - 20/5 internet
    - Freedom essentials phone

    Total: $110/month for a 1 year contract.

    As for what happens after your contract is up - you can renew. Granted, at that point you'll have to lock into whatever the current deal is. So, if the triple play goes up to $120/month next year, then you can lock into it at that price, to renew your contract.

    BTW, I have the MR DVR. Very slick. Yes, you can feed up to 3 additional clients at one time - with a grand total of 6 additional clients total. It allows you to watch 3 recordings concurrently (1 from the DVR directly, and one each on 2 other TVs). And it gives you access to some extras:

    - Streaming of digital music and pictures (and soon to be video) from your PCs to your TV (the one with the DVR only).
    - Access to remote DVR booking - they just added this feature for us... I can now schedule new recordings, delete existing ones, set up my favorites list, and manage my parental controls all from the web. And they JUST rolled out remote wireless DVR booking (being able to do the remote DVR stuff from your cell phone).
     
  19. Nov 19, 2008 #79 of 172
    Reaper

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    During the seven months outside of NFL season I'll save the full $60/month. During the five months of the NFL season I'll have to pay an additonal $30/month for a basic D* package to access NFL Sunday Ticket. But I will STILL save $30/month compared to what I'm paying now.

    So that's an approximate savings of $570 per year. Still confused?
     
  20. Nov 19, 2008 #80 of 172
    jpl

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    Oh yeah, and that $30 movie deal really is a great deal. You get every premium movie channel for that price - HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, TMC, Starz, Encore, Flix, Sundance, and IFC. Just a ridiculous number of channels. Plus you get access to those VOD offerings as part of that price. I currently just have the movie pack - which is Starz, TMC, Encore, Flix, Sundance, and IFC (no HBO or Cinemax).
     

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