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Mass shooting @ Connecticut elementary school. 20 children killed.

Discussion in 'The OT' started by cj9788, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    So what do you have to say to them?

    They helped in the murder of 20 children becuase they own legal guns too.
    right?
     
  2. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    This was posted on page 13 of the thread.
    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ool_shooting&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13557883454854

    Now if you read the whole thing you would see its quite different the the one in Newtown.

    These were his Guns

    Springfield XD 9 mm handgun
    Browning BPS 12 gauge pump-action shotgun
    Ruger M77 .30-06 bolt-action rifle
     
  3. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    Start by banning all assault weapons. Make it far more difficult to purchase guns. Apply the same strict standards to personal sales and sales at gun shows. Federal laws on the proper secure storage of guns in your own home or business. If a legal gun owner is reckless and allows a firearm to fall into the hands of a person who commits a crime...charge and sentence them both for the same crime. Outlaw body armor unless you have a legitimate reason for purchasing it. Possibly...limit the number of firearms owned by an individual or household. You can hunt and defend yourself without an arsenal fit for a militia.
     
  4. RunnerFL

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    Hoosier205 New Member

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    Depends on whether the share the sentiments of some in this thread.
     
  6. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. The possiblilites are endless but a knee jerk reaction of just banning guns isn't one of them.
     
  7. Hoosier205

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    Let me know when you get back up. I'll take it easy on you until then. From last history, I know how frustrated you get when trying to keep up with me.
     
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  9. RunnerFL

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    Clinton tried that, didn't work.

    You clearly have no idea what one has to go through to buy one. It's not easy.

    Already been done in many states.

    That, according to Federal definition, would be an invasion of privacy.

    So if the gun owner's home is broken into and their gun stolen make it their fault? I don't think so.

    I'm good with this one. No civilian needs body armor.

    I'd be ok with this one too.

    The problem is, and what you anti-gun people don't seem to get, is that just because you put laws in place doesn't mean criminals will follow them.
     
  10. damondlt

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    I agree 100%
    Seems fair.
    I own guns and I can live with this.

    But can't we maybe beef up school security as well?
    There are still people with other guns out there.

    Except for this,
    If a legal gun owner is reckless and allows a firearm to fall into the hands of a person who commits a crime...charge and sentence them both for the same crime.
    Only if the same applies when you fail to park your car in your garage, or someone breaks into your garage,and someone steals it and takes it puts a bomb in and and parks it at a school .:rolleyes:

    If you are talking about lending a gun out to a friend. Then I agree they both should be head accountable. Otherwise no!
     
  11. damondlt

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    These were his guns.


    Springfield XD 9 mm handgun
    Browning BPS 12 gauge pump-action shotgun
    Ruger M77 .30-06 bolt-action rifle
     
  12. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    But what has been mentioned many times in this thread, mostly by those that don't want any more gun control, is that fact that this particular crime (and many like it) wasn't perpetrated by a criminal. They're perpetrated by the mentally imbalanced. Their actions make them criminals, but they don't necessarily have the wherewithal to obtain illegal guns. Legal guns just happened to be handy.
     
  13. Hoosier205

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    One law...that can be rewritten to be more effective.

    In some states it is far easier than in others.

    Oh well. Part of being a responsible gun owner.

    Yes. Won't be a problem if they have a secure and well anchored firearm safe/vault.
     
  14. RunnerFL

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    Right, he didn't become a criminal until killed his mother. He was mentally unstable long before that though.

    She should have seen the signs and kept her guns from his reach and found him some medical help.
     
  15. houskamp

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    What nobody seems to understand is this guy was crazy.. also they say he had autism.. as one who has autisim I can tell you he had this all well planned.. we do very little without planning..
    so you restrict guns.. he WILL find one..
    you increase security.. he plans for it and takes them out 1st or avoids them..

    only way to have prevented this is to have helped him BEFORE he made up his mind to do it.. too many troubled kids/adults get dumped by the system and don't get helped at all..

    we aren't dealing with a stop-n-go robbery..
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    I disagree

    I'm sure it is.

    Oh, I'm sorry Mr. American Citizen you have no more privacy. Yeah, right like that will fly.

    Not true. Even the most secure vaults can be stolen if the thief is set on stealing it. Gun stores are fortresses yet they still get robbed.
     
  17. damondlt

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    How do you help someone that has a mental illness.
    Lock them up in institutions?

    You can't change people thoughts. If you're nuts ,your nuts.
    Meds? well you have to take them, again that might make things worse.

    Crazy people don't always have warning signs.

    You have to protect yourselfs.

    This guy may very well have avoided this school knowing they had security.
    He may very well have been stopped with security warning and much quicker response. You don't know that!

    You have to remember the poor people had NO WARNING!
     
  18. houskamp

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    many, including myself were simply dumped by the system..

    they CAN be helped.. or at least be put somewhere safe..

    one or 2 security gards wouldn't have made any diff.. they aren't going to pull guns on every person that steps foot in the school so they just get shot 1st..
    best case is that he just waited for school to let out and shot them in the courtyard..
     
  19. damondlt

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    OK this guy walked up with 3 guns armor and battle camo.
    A Guard sitting in front on the camera , would have been able to respond weather it would have been verbal, or with a shot.
     
  20. houskamp

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    so he waits outside..

    like I said this was planned.. he knew where these people were..
    or he heads straight for camera room and dusts gaurd 1st..
     
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