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Media Share: Some AVIs work, others don't

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mtnagel, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. Oct 1, 2009 #1 of 17
    mtnagel

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    Just like the title says.

    Here are the properties for 1 that works (on the left) and 1 that doesn't (on the right):

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    Does that give any clue why one would work and the other doesn't? Is it too high of a bitrate?
     
  2. Oct 1, 2009 #2 of 17
    Movieman

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    If its not mpeg then the STB shouldnt be reading it. I dont know if it has to do with the audio format that you posted on the left with mpeg layer-3. Also, are you using WMP or a program like TVersity?
     
  3. Oct 1, 2009 #3 of 17
    mtnagel

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    Sorry, I'm using Tversity.
     
  4. Oct 1, 2009 #4 of 17
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    I converted to MPEG2 and it worked fine. Wonder why it doesn't like the one AVI?
     
  5. Oct 1, 2009 #5 of 17
    Bushwacr

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    Not enough info; run it through Gspot and get the encode details. There are hundreds of AVI formats.

    1317/448 kbps is so slow it can't be the problem. maybe it's a packed encode.
     
  6. Oct 1, 2009 #6 of 17
    mtnagel

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    Is this what you want? And no, it's not packed.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Oct 2, 2009 #7 of 17
    racermd

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    More specifically, AVI is simply a container, as is MP4, M4V, etc. More likely, the problem is the codec used to compress the video/audio stream.

    I haven't played too much with the streaming to the HR2x boxes as I have a PS3 at the one location in my home where I would do anything of the sort (and the PS3 is a bit more forgiving with the containers and codecs it will read). When I did play around with streaming to the HR2x, I recall the boxes being kinda picky and prefer certain codecs and container types, but I couldn't tell you with any certainty which combination works best. A deeper search here can give you some better results.

    Once you know what container and codec you want to use, I can whole-heartedly recommend Handbrake and the KLite codec pack to convert your files as both are free and can be found fairly quickly via a Google search. Chances are, your files can be converted directly to a format that is more friendly to the HR2x.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2009 #8 of 17
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    Thanks for the info and the recommendations on the software to use to convert. I did use WinAVI to convert to MPEG2 and WMV and both those worked with the HR20, but WinAVI isn't free.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2009 #9 of 17
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    I'm having the same issue.

    I have TVersity setup and working perfectly for my PS3 but my 2 HR21/22s are having a slight issue.

    I can play most of my videos on the HRs, but one large group of videos (all encoded by the same person) won't play. They play fine on the PS3 (passed straight through, no transcode)

    When I try to play them on the HR, the screen goes blank for a second and then it drops back to the mediashare menu. If I watch the TVersity status at the same time, I see the request to stream AND transcode and it shows up as transcoding from AVI->MPG but then craps out and disappears.

    I will put the GSPOT info here for a working and non-working video.

    Working File

    Video
    MPG4 XviD Dev ver. 25-Mar-03
    PVOP
    901kbps
    704x384

    Audio
    CBR 0x2000 (Dolby AC3) AC3
    48000Hz 192 kb/s tot , stereo (2/0)

    NON-working video
    Video
    MPG4 XviD 1.2 SMP
    PVOP BVOP QPEL
    1391kbps
    576x432

    Audio
    0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
    48000Hz 138 kb/s tot , Joint Stereo LAME3.95

    Any ideas why the files won't work and/or transcode? Is it an issue on my PC/TVersity? GSpot says I have the codecs installed and the files play fine
     
  11. brianp6621

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    I actually just found another file that has virtual identical video properties but NOT QPEL and it plays fine.

    MPG4 XviD 1.2 SMP
    PVOP BVOP
    892 kbps
    720x416

    Could this be a clue?
     
  12. brianp6621

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    Well I may have answered my own question. I researched qpel and found a method to reencode the file with virtualdub removing it(but keeping everything else the same) and it worked.

    In my case it seems qpel is the culprit.
     
  13. mtnagel

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    I ended up using Handbrake and converted the AVI to AVI (if that makes any sense) and that worked. They were then playable.

    Don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but there you go.
     
  14. brianp6621

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    Yeah, it is probably doing the same thing I did in virtualdub.
     
  15. brianp6621

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    The silly thing is it took less time to "get" all the files again rather than re-encode each one locally.
     
  16. mtnagel

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    Yeah, it is kind of annoying, but it only happened to a few of my files that I found so far. And I really don't plan on using Media Share all that much, so it wasn't a big deal for me to convert a few.
     
  17. kepico

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    I use Tversity and sometimes some AVIs do not play. I have downloaded GSpot but cannot find where you were able to find the type (you mentioned QPEL AVIs) - where in GSpot do I find this information to know if the AVI I'm trying to play is in the right format?
     

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