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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Aug 11, 2012 #521 of 1671
    BusterAvis

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    If they have already reached an agreement or will reach an agreement "in principle" (without signatures on contract yet), then why wait to sign the contract until right before football season (which would be Aug. 31 or so?)

    Why not sign the darn contract around Aug. 14 or so, so we can get the network for the launch date on Aug. 15? It sounds like they've already came to an agreement behind the scenes, and just need to sign off on everything.

    From what I understand, once the contract and overall deal is done, then they can flip on a switch and the channel is up in virtually no time (aka minutes).

    Why would it have to take almost 3 weeks from now?
     
  2. Aug 11, 2012 #522 of 1671
    tonyd79

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    No. They have to test it. I would think directv doesn't want the channel until opening day of football. Or at least close. No real lure until then.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2012 #523 of 1671
    BusterAvis

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    Why the heck would DirecTV wait until Sept. 1, or right before Sept. 1 to sign for this? Starting within 7 days before Sept. 1 (Aug. 25 - Sept. 1) is when many of the subscribers that would leave, would disconnect from them to switch to another provider just in time for Sept. 1. This would be utter stupidity for DirecTV in terms of strategy to wait that long. Their best bet, is to sign for it as quickly as possible, if they have indeed struck a verbal agreement (or are on the cusp of a verbal agreement now). No need to wait any longer. That could mean thousands of more subscribers... all gone to competition (cable, etc.), if they wait until the eve of Sept. 1.
     
  4. Aug 12, 2012 #524 of 1671
    tonyd79

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    The sky is falling.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2012 #525 of 1671
    donm

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    I sure hope we at least hear something next week or I know I will be leaving Directv. I really like Directv and even have some time left on my contract but I'm not missing any of the football games. I already went through this with Directv on CSNW. I gave Directv the benefit of the doubt because not many other providers were signing up for CSNW. So, I didn't leave but with many of the cable company's signing up for the Pac 12 Network it is really making me very upset.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2012 #526 of 1671
    tonyd79

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  7. Aug 12, 2012 #527 of 1671
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    The first live event on the network will be 8/17 Stanford/Santa Clara Women's Soccer. The first football game isn't until 8/30. My best guess is the target date would be 8/29 since it seems DirecTV usually launches new channels on Weds. If we don't see the channel in time for Labor Day Weekend when the Pac 12 will have 5 football games that weekend then I think we can hear "The sky is falling."
     
  8. Aug 12, 2012 #528 of 1671
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    First, PAC12 would have to supply DirecTV with a decryption key. The master feeds for all the TV providers are already live on commercial satellites. (Galaxy sat I believe). When this is received, DirecTV can test and verify the incoming feed. This is all done internally, nothing we can see/know about except an insider telling us.

    Then they have to setup their feed to the DirecTV satellites, and test it. Generally, this takes about a week, but could take longer depending on circumstances.

    They could hurry it all within a week, but that would really be the minimum time it would take to get a channel to your receivers after a deal was signed.

    So if they sign a deal on the 14th, you will probably have it by the 21st or something along those lines. And that is if everything goes right, everything is in place, and tests go smoothly. The reality is that it would probably be closer to 2 weeks. If they sign a deal they probably want to hurry it before the first football game starts, which is August 30th.

    If you really can't wait that long, chances are (seeing as to what they have been signing on) that your local cable company has it.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2012 #529 of 1671
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    Since it probably takes at least a week for a cable guy to come install it, I would make the call tomorrow. You can always cancel the installer if you hear something in a week.
     
  10. Aug 12, 2012 #530 of 1671
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    WHY? Because there is no deal. Directv will make an announcement "closer to when school starts." What does that mean? They'll announce they aren't carrying it? That's certainly no assurance whatsoever.

    But it keeps people from switching, that's for sure, especially when you have clowns like Gary Stevenson keeping the hype up about he's "heard nothing that they don't want it," etc. He's just kept the hype up, while Directv has not said a freaking word. It sounds to me like Directv has drawn it's line in the sand and it's up to Pac 12 to make it work.

    The biggest issue for Pac 12 is IF they don't get Directv on board then there is no way the channel gets nationwide access.....cable companies will not universally carry it on all of their systems outside of the west, so these people will have no option whatsoever. Directv controls about 85% of the sports bar TV content, so Pac 12 would be available in any sports bar anywhere. So really Directv brings MORE to the table than any of the cable companies.....and Directv probably believes that because of that it should get a better deal than others. Not to mention Directv has 19M subs.

    On the same side Comcast, et al probably have deals that they get the lowest price no matter what - and that means they'd get a rebate if Directv picks it up.

    IF Larry Scott cannot land Directv the Pac 12 Network is a failure. It ultimately produces less access than we had before.

    Out west over time Directv is sure to lose subscribers though. It cannot compete with the local cable company offering access to the Pac 12 Network. Maybe Mike White of Directv has run the numbers and determined that it just is not worth it.

    Regardless we all sit here, screwed.

     
  11. Aug 12, 2012 #531 of 1671
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    If that was the idea then they'd all announce and say they plan it to be available then.....there is no deal in place....
     
  12. Aug 12, 2012 #532 of 1671
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    You may be right but realize that DirecTV has not formally announced the five HD channels that are in test right now and are assumed to be coming live on Wednesday. They no longer announce deals ahead of time. That does NOT mean they have a deal with the PAC 12 but it also does not mean they do not. The PAC 12 may announce, however, and they have not.

    How about this. They have a deal but both legal departments have to review. That means the deal could blow up but it often is a rubber stamp. That could be what is happening.

    But you are right. The PAC 12 has an issue if they do not land DirecTV. So does DirecTV but the bigger issue is for the PAC 12 right now.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2012 #533 of 1671
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    Looking at the schedule... WOW!!!! There's some big games that 1st week on the network! We might actually miss Northern Colorado at Utah? Oh no!!!!! ;) Then, you tell me I won't see the powerhouse ;) of San Jose State at Stanford, Nevada at California, the mighty ;) Nicholls St. at Oregon St., or the perennial power San Diego State at Washington?? :lol:

    Those games are HUUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
     
  14. Aug 12, 2012 #534 of 1671
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    Hopefully DirecTV will have a deal with Pac 12 Network done at least before football season starts, or at least in the first week of football season.

    Also, hopefully DirecTV will have the network available in HD and SD. While HD is great, not everybody who subscribes to DirecTV has an HD box or an HD television.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2012 #535 of 1671
    kick4fun

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    So here in Fort Collins CO, I went to a Directv booth at a city event. The rep said he's had the Pac12 network for 2 years and asked if I was calling him a liar when I questioned him about the launch date and whether or not Directv was getting close to signing this deal. He then got all pissed off and told me to leave the booth. I came back a few hours later with a copy of the recent news of getting close to the launch date etc.. He grabbed the paper I handed him, wadded it up and threw it at my 6 year old daughter. I was so mad, I really was ready to kick his butt, but again I was with my 6 year old and 18 month. I want to call directv, but I understand they probably can't do anything. I don't want any kickbacks or deals, just a recognition that they shouldn't employ idiot hot heads. Any thoughts of how to handle this?
     
  16. Aug 12, 2012 #536 of 1671
    HGuardian

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    Yeah. I wouldn't take my kids near anyone nearly that mentally unstable.
     
  17. Aug 12, 2012 #537 of 1671
    sigma1914

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    2 years? :lol: The conference just started last year. What a dope.
     
  18. Aug 12, 2012 #538 of 1671
    kick4fun

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    Not only a dope, but an angry dope.. Dangerous combo!
     
  19. Aug 12, 2012 #539 of 1671
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    Send an email. They should know what a rep of theirs did. I'd want to know.
     
  20. Aug 12, 2012 #540 of 1671
    donm

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    I already checked and they can install me in a couple days but thanks. I just want to hear sometime next week. Even if they had to miss the first game if I knew they were going to carry the channel for sure I wouldn't cancel.

    I never said the sky was falling but after what I went through with CSNW Directv I'm not going through that again. The Pac 12 Network for me is the most important channel on TV. Why should I wait and see and end up canceling after missing many of the games I want to see.

    Even though I was told cable could install me in a few days I would probably call them by the end of next week to give them almost two weeks to get me ready. I already have the cable internet and phone so maybe that is why they could get me installed fast.
     
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