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just wondering if anyone thinks that the mountain network that goes off may 31 will be replaced by the pac 12 network?
 
#1,052 ·
"JMCecil" said:
Yes please look at Netflix and Hulu+ and Vudu etc...

Netflix is struggling and will continue to lose content to distributor specific providers. Hulu and Vudu (especially Vudu) can barely keep the doors open. And, will also continue to lose content to the media owners own systems.

They are convenient for the users, but they are not money generators for the content owners. In many cases the streaming content has become an impediment to negotiations of much more lucrative delivery models.

In other words it will be a long time before sports streaming generates enough revenue to replace the current distribution model. So, there is no incentive for the content owners to support streaming. In fact there is value dilution that expressly tells them its a bad idea.
Ask Viacom about that. Hurt them in deal with directv.
 
#1,055 ·
"kick4fun" said:
While waiting to see if Directv negotiates with PAC 12, just found out my in-laws in Seattle have Comcast. YEAH! I can now watch Pac12 via the internet streaming.
GO COUGS!
Good for you! That gives you some breathing room.
 
#1,057 ·
sdpadres said:
@PAC12Insider says deal with DirecTV is close. $14.99 a month. Are they crazy?
IF that is correct, it is the same price that DirecTV charges for Fox Soccer Plus. Are they crazy? For me...YES!! I am a huge soccer fan but will not pay for FS+. I am a PAC-12 fan but will not pay $14.99/mo.

I would love to have the PAC-12 Network, but not at an additional cost. I already have the Sports Pack and hope to have it included there.
 
#1,058 ·
"sdpadres" said:
@PAC12Insider says deal with DirecTV is close. $14.99 a month. Are they crazy?
That would be a non starter for me.

It would tell me that the PAC 12 wants too much for a seven channel model. Cutting off noses to spite their face. Hope it is not true price wise.
 
#1,059 ·
For me the PAC12 games are the only reason I have subscribed to the sports pack. If the PAC12 games are no longer in the sports pack I don't have a reason to keep it. My local RSNs carry just about all of the non PAC12 content. I can just deduct the 14.99 per month from my SunDevil Club contribution.
 
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"DC_SnDvl" said:
For me the PAC12 games are the only reason I have subscribed to the sports pack. If the PAC12 games are no longer in the sports pack I don't have a reason to keep it. My local RSNs carry just about all of the non PAC12 content. I can just deduct the 14.99 per month from my SunDevil Club contribution.
And tell them why.
 
#1,061 ·
DC_SnDvl said:
For me the PAC12 games are the only reason I have subscribed to the sports pack. If the PAC12 games are no longer in the sports pack I don't have a reason to keep it. My local RSNs carry just about all of the non PAC12 content. I can just deduct the 14.99 per month from my SunDevil Club contribution.
It was a big reason for me too - at least during football season. I loved those late night random P12 games. If they are asking for 14.99/mo just for a P12 package, no thanks. This will suck even more for basketball.

edit: is the main channel part of the 14.99 or will that be in Choice/Choice Xtra?
 
#1,063 ·
I saw the $14.99 post too, doesn't make sense to me, that would mean DirecTV would make over $8 a sub for each person that signed up for the channels. Rumor is PAC 12 nets is asking $.80 a sub for the channel. So even if it was $.80 per channel per sub it doesn't add up. I still hold out hope Mon/Tue we hear something.
 
#1,064 ·
sum_random_dork said:
I saw the $14.99 post too, doesn't make sense to me, that would mean DirecTV would make over $8 a sub for each person that signed up for the channels. Rumor is PAC 12 nets is asking $.80 a sub for the channel. So even if it was $.80 per channel per sub it doesn't add up. I still hold out hope Mon/Tue we hear something.
Me too. I hope its not the fox soccer plus route, but if it is it is.
 
#1,067 ·
sum_random_dork said:
I saw the $14.99 post too, doesn't make sense to me, that would mean DirecTV would make over $8 a sub for each person that signed up for the channels. Rumor is PAC 12 nets is asking $.80 a sub for the channel. So even if it was $.80 per channel per sub it doesn't add up. I still hold out hope Mon/Tue we hear something.
I thought I saw more than .80 a channel in some article. Can't find it now. I doubt they are asking 80 cents in PAC 12 territory. Typically, channels get more in territory than out.
 
#1,068 ·
BusterAvis said:
That has to be the sports pack price.
Currently, it's $12.95.
So it would go up to $14.95.
That's a $2.00 increase.

For those that have sports pack, this should not be an issue.
$2.00 extra to get all seven networks?
It would be worth it.
Out of which part of your anatomy are you pulling that information??? Based on the Fox Soccer Plus model, it doesn't have to be the Sports Pack price.

Since this is a niche channel, the Fox Soccer Plus model makes sense.

EDIT: Actually, that response is not totally warranted. I am mainly reacting to all of your previous "crying wolf" comments. I disagree with you, but do not have express it the way I did.
 
#1,069 ·
Fog627 said:
Out of which part of your anatomy are you pulling that information??? Based on the Fox Soccer Plus model, it doesn't have to be the Sports Pack price.

Since this is a niche channel, the Fox Soccer Plus model makes sense.
LOL, there is no way this is $14.95 ala carte.
Not that many subscribers would see it (because they're not going to want to pay that much).
The Pac-12 would not want DirecTV to charge that much, so the Pac-12 would not agree to that. The Pac-12 wants as many of DirecTV's subscribers as possible to see the network(s).
 
#1,071 ·
"BusterAvis" said:
I remember seeing something that said $0.80 for all seven networks combined.
That may have been the out of market price, not sure.
No way is it 80 cents for all seven networks in market. Too cheap. Plus no one is doing all seven.
 
#1,073 ·
$14.99/month? I don't see Pac 12 going ala carte on this, except maybe out of region. But still that's a lot for something that is supposedly between 80 and 95 cents per sub. Not sure if that is a package for all.

Comcast is more than Directv, but if I have to shell out another $14.99 then its not. Direct is still going to lose folks out west if this is what it turns out to being.
 
#1,074 ·
Guess directv is just gonna lose a lot of subs no matter what. ;)

Let's see what happens. The price may be wrong. It may be a new sports pack price. It may be for more than the local. It may be for out of market only.

I trust no anonymous bloggers. Especially ones that campaigned for the PAC 12's side of the discussion.
 
#1,076 ·
They should have 3 sports pack prices, if I were them.

Sports Pack Lite: About 10 sports channels (no Fox or Comcast regional sports channels) = $5.99 per month

Sports Pack Classic: The Sports Pack we know as of now (add in Longhorn Network, 40+ channels) = $12.99 per month

Sports Pac Extreme: (spelled as "Pac". This is the Sports Pack Classic with all seven Pac-12 networks added to it. About 50 channels) = $15.99

Sports Pack Planet: (in the future this would be launched. International sports channels are added to the Sports Pac Extreme. 60+ channels) = $24.99

For the Sports Pac Extreme, I would make it $15.99 instead of $14.99.
The subscriber can then choose what sports package is best for them.
 
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