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MRV Fee's with DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by dgenton, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. wavemaster

    wavemaster Godfather

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    OK, thanks. I also found the explanation thread which cleared up a lot.

    In my case we're all Gb speed now through a 24port Gb switch. DECA would be slower and not have as good a capacity for the load.

    That AND at this point I am actually trying to bring all my media and devices together, not fragment them further apart. I see no advantage in DECA for our install.

    With the forthcoming IPV6 and the established base, I hope D realizes Ethernet isn't going anywhere for a while and not punish those that choose to use it.
     
  2. litzdog911

    litzdog911 Well-Known Member

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    I really don't think DirecTV is planning to "punish" folks with their own functioning ethernet networks. Yours is clearly better than 99.99% of the general public out there!
     
  3. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Regardless of what the speeds say, DECA will still give you at least as good performance as your GB network if not better. Doesn't mean you have to change .. DECA is really the right tool, but other tools work.
     
  4. wavemaster

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    I'll move to a better thread for these questions....
     
  5. Athlon646464

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    Isn't it in the area of 'trick-play' where DECA excels?
     
  6. Scooter22

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    From my perspective, a hardwired ethernet connection works perfect. I haven't had a single connection issue. It works fantastic! They should give us the option and refuse to offer customer support for ethernet networking issues. And... don't charge $3 for MRV unless you have DECA. :)
     
  7. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    While I've always agreed,
    This ship has sailed long ago.
     
  8. HRJustin

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    I have been using MRV for a while now pretty much right after all of our receivers were swapped out for being in a 72 market. So am I right to assume I will have to add HD access in order to add MRV access once this comes out of beta. I really don't need HD access at the time since we don't have HDTVs. In our current situation I don't see getting a new HDTV any time soon. In fact we might need to even drop down to the choice package but beside the point. I already have the HD receivers I am using for MRV networked. MRV is working perfectly fine currently without HD access.

    Is it know for absolute certainty that HD access is required in order to use/add the $3 MRV fee? Could someone with contacts "in the know" possibly ask what would happen? I will be quite angry if they wont let me add the MRV fee when I have no need for HD access currently.

    It just doesn't seem right to deny it just because we don't need to subscribe to HD access yet. I hope that they will make an exception in these types of areas since we already have the HD equipment. I also see no need to have DECA because I already have the cat6 networked just for the HR22,R22 and easily enough another H21 to my router. I really hope that they will continue to allow this type of networking. I don't think it matters now long they give they should never force us to use DECA when Ethernet networking works perfectly fine. It should be our choice if we want to pay the fee and support the network.
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    I'm only a little bit "in the know", so this is only "my guess", but I'm afraid you will end up unhappy after the Beta is over.
    All I've heard/read has had HD package as part of MRV.
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    Same here .. Although if you are 100% R22s and 100% SD .. I suppose technically speaking it would be possible. I'm just not sure DIRECTV will let you and since with just R22s you may not be able to even get HD access it could present a confusing situation :scratchin :shrug:

    Hopefully you will be able to work something out and while it's not good for you, there are only a small percentage of people that fall into this category.
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    The R22 for MPEG-4 markets locked to SD turned out to be a bit of a turkey, with the format being locked into "windowbox" for locals on an SD TV. This caused more HD hardware to used later and dropping the R22 for these markets.
    The OP might have all HD receivers, "but" I think the problem will be how the DirecTV system works after Beta.
    Does the account have to have the HD service, or will the hardware on the account allow MRV charge to be added? :shrug:
     
  12. HRJustin

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    I don't have HD access on the account now and I never have. MRV has worked great for me since I started using it except breakups with my MPEG4 locals for a while just like everyone else with MPEG4 until they cleaned it up to what it is now. I don't have the one H21 HD receiver I would use MRV on networked ATM.

    Currently I have an HR22-100 and an R22-100 networked and sharing lists. The R22 is the original DVR that replaced an R15 from the 72 swap. The HR22-100 was just installed here at this location from the movers connection. The installer deactivated the H21 HD receiver in my room and replaced it with the HR22. The HR22 is locked to "hide HD channels" but it still has the HDTV options available unlike the R22. Anyways I only have the one R22 and I kept it by choice the installer would have swapped it out for another HR22. I didn't want to lose the recordings on it and the less recording space doesn't bother me at all. I know there probably isn't many people in this same situation since most in this area probably have no idea about MRV or already have HD access. It would really disappoint me if after all this time of using MRV without HD access to be forced to add HD access just to add the $3 MRV fee.

    you can see all of my receivers in my signature and there's a link to my complete setup. I have three actual HD type receivers other then the R22 and one of them three is the HR22 HD DVR.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    You should realize "all this time" for someone not part of this forum, has only been a couple of months and the DirecTV MRV website clearly states HD service, DVR service, & HD equipment for the Beta period.
    I do understand your situation and hope something could be worked out for you, but at the same time, the programing of the DirecTV system for this exception may not be there.
     
  14. HRJustin

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    Yea I understand how its stated Ive see all the requirements and everything on the directv site. I just meant that its been working all this time without HD access. The main reason I think HD access is a requirement is because in most areas HD receivers are optional get an HD DVR/HD receiver pay for HD access. In my area HD equipment is forced upon us so we shouldn't be and haven't been forced to add HD access. There is no reason to block it once they can make money from the $3 fee id be willing to pay just to continue using the service. Then again until the beta ends none of us know for sure how this will work in these areas :lol:.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    Sounds like you have all your ducks lined up.
    Good luck making your point. [I hope you win] :)
     
  16. crazy4dss

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    Directv Ethernet over Coax Adapter
    The advantage it will be able to give you a transfer rate of atleast 40mbps
     
  17. bobnielsen

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    40 millibits/second? More like 40 Mbps :)

    The video signals are probably around 10 Mbps, but additional bandwidth is needed for trickplay functions.
     
  18. crazy4dss

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    Only swm customers will be able to upgrade to DECA system. All new Hd/DVR customers will have the DECA installed automatically the broadband will be optional. The MPEG4 markets that must have R22 DVR swm installs will also be able to get the DECA system. Just like the SWM installs the computer will auto add deca based on dish config and equipments and SWM flagged accounts. Hope this shed some light. is not pm me and i will do my best to help. Oh yeah my credentials are: DTV Lead Tech and member of DTV round table discussion and access to DTV's F.O.M. field operations manager. : )
     
  19. crazy4dss

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    thanks, miss-typed. My mind works faster than i can type..........:grin:
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    I think this would only be true with the H/HR24 installs only/fully.
    The current memo calls out to use non H/HR24s fro those that don't want DECA [for the $99 charge].
    A year from now perhaps all new installs with have DECA as part of it.
     

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