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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by buggymenot, Mar 3, 2005.

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  1. Mar 3, 2005 #1 of 32
    buggymenot

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    I have a dish pro quad at 119 and 110. I have a 921, 508 and I just got a 522. What can I do to hook up all the receivers. Is there any way I can use just one input to the 921 and 522 and be able to use both tuners?
     
  2. Mar 3, 2005 #2 of 32
    BobaBird

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    The dual tuner receivers all require both tuner inputs to be connected. That can be done with single cable if you have a DP Plus switch (DPP Twin or DPP44) and a DP Separator at the receiver.

    The cheapest thing for you to do is add a DP34 and 2 runs of RG6 for the 522. Both lines to each dual tuner receiver must be connected to the same switch (for example, both tuners of the 522 on the Quad, both tuners of the 921 on the DP34). That will leave you able to add a 6th tuner and for the receivers connected to the DP34 an extra satellite slot.

    If running the extra RG6 is very difficult, get the DPP44 and 2 DP Separators.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2005 #3 of 32
    new04quest

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    You'll need lots of short RG6 cables (at the back of the dual tuners), 4 diplexers, 2 satellite separators and DDP44 switch to fully take advantage of your dual tuner receivers. It'll give you 5 rooms capability with your 3 receivers.
     
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    buggymenot

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    How would I connect the DPP44?
     
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    buggymenot

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    that shows multi dishes. I just have 1 dish
     
  7. Mar 4, 2005 #7 of 32
    new04quest

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    Install the available SAT to the SAT input of the switch starting from 1st one, and leave the rest open.
     
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    buggymenot

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    if I run a cable into sat and two. Can the 522 and 921 be on the same switch?
     
  9. Mar 4, 2005 #9 of 32
    new04quest

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    Sure. One DPP44 can be connect to 4 receivers.
     
  10. larrystotler

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    Uh....Last time I checked, the 921 only outputs to 1 TV, not 2.....
     
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  12. SimpleSimon

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    And your point is?

    Larry's right. And why are you talking about diplexers? The OP hasn't said anything about needing OTA.

    As for "lots of short cables", unh. four will do. That's about 5 minutes work for me.
     
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    If you have a dual tuner receiver, you'll need 2 diplexer and 1 separator to transfer the UHF/VHF to a 2nd TV in another room. For sure the 522 is a dual tuner with 2 TV's capability. More likely the other room get its RG6 from the distributor cable box outside the house. If both TV's is in the same room, you do not need the diplexer but you still need the separator for the dual tuner. For most of us, three 3 inches and one 6 inches cables are not available to us. You can use the pre-made RG6 but they normally come a little longer than what we need for the set up. It'll work but it'll not look as clean as the shorter cable. 4 odd Length cables are consider a lots to me. Most of us do not have coaxial crimper tool kit. For me, since I works in the electronics companies in the RF department for almost 20 years I have plenty of tools.
     
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    My point was that you said that:

    "It'll give you 5 rooms capability with your 3 receivers."

    With the setup he has, he can only run 4 rooms on independent channels since the 921 and the 508 only output to 1 TV each. As for needing diplexors, you only need then IF you are going to use the existing house wiring for the 522's TV2 to feed it back to the cabling on the outside of the house to feed to another room. In the case of a 522 , 311, and 811 install, we have to use a Quad since the DP+Twin only supports 2 receivers(up to 4 tuners), so we have to be more creative in our wiring. There are many ways he can do this setup. He can use a DP Twin into a DP34, and the use a DP21 on the 2 outputs of the DP34 to get the 5th tuner. However, if he only wants to run 1 line to each receiver, he will need to spend the extra on the DP+44 and 2 seperators. And if he wants to backfeed TV2 from the 522, he would also need diplexors.
     
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    And note that if there's existing house wiring, you can usually run the TV2 output(s) into it making them accessible in many rooms - WITHOUT diplexers.

    In fact, that's usually the only thing existing wiring is good for.
     
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    Also note that E* specifies that when doing an install, you are supposed to use all new wiring from the dish to the receiver. While this is unrealistic in many cases, they have had a lot of problems with installers running DP down cheap RG6 and RG59 and having to deal with all the service calls.
     
  17. buggymenot

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    With how many lines coming into the DPP44? ( can you report 4 receivers?)
     
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    If you have the Dish500, it'll be 2 lines into DPP44. Install it to the first 2 SAT inputs and leave the other 2 alone.

    Yes, absolutely. It'll work with 4 receivers. It'll work with the diplexer and separator as well. If you want more receiver, you'll need to add more switch. I recommend that you use the power inserter within the line of the first receiver. Please do not do it my way. I didn't use it. It is recommend by the DPP44 manufacture to use it. DPP44 is quite large and heavy compare to most of the switch. It may not fit in your existing external RG6 distributor box. You may want to replace the box. I replaced the existing distributor box with a much larger weather proof electrical box to accommodate the DPP44. I found it at the sprinkler section of Home Depot. Of course, notthing is perfect. It took me a while to modify the box to make it work and painted to match the external house color. My HOA is very damn strict. After I installed the larger box and re-route all the RG6's. With the new layout, the signal strength is at 91. It used to be at 81. I guess with the larger box, the RG6's aren't bend anymore. Good luck.
     
  20. buggymenot

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    So let me get this straight. I can run 2 cables from the dish into a DPP44 then run a 2 lines coming out of the DPP44 and use a Dishpro Plus Seperator on each line then feed them to my 921 and 522????
     
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