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Multi-Room Viewing and Static IP Addresses - Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by The Merg, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    It's quite possible that when/if the DVR/Receiver sends back a renew request, to renew the DHCP lease, it's getting "lost" by the other DVRs/Receivers on the network.
     
  2. RunnerFL

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    Ditto

    DHCP Reservations are nice but not foolproof.
     
  3. RunnerFL

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    That's what I do. I even go so far as to group my devices. All of my DirecTV receivers are in my 192.168.1.2X block while my DVD players and BluRay Players are in 192.168.1.3X and all my computers are in 192.168.1.8X or 192.168.1.9X, and so on, while my DHCP range is 100 to 150.
     
  4. RunnerFL

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    Did you submit a report in the issues thread? :)

    I don't think I've ever seen anyone submit a report on this issue, I could be wrong.
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    Actually "static" would be on the receiver side, by setting it from the advanced network menu, but if this address falls within the DHCP pool of the router, it isn't truly "static".
    Reserved by MAC address will have the router keep sending the same IP address to the receiver, but it too doesn't work as well. "I know" from trying it with my troublesome setup.
    True static, outside the DHCP pool has been "bulletproof" for me on this troublesome DECA setup.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    Ain't that the truth!

    It's also led to me breaking things worse than they already were at times too. :lol:
     
  7. RunnerFL

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    Am I assuming to much when I think that if I say "static IP" everyone should know I'm talking about an IP outside of your DHCP pool? :lol:

    Others have had the same issue as well with that setup.

    Same here. In fact I can't recall ever using anything other than a Static IP on my DVRs from the moment we got networking. I always use static on everything except my laptop, because it's used on several networks, my iPhone and my iPad. My rule of thumb is if a device allows me to use a Static IP then I do.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    "See the thing is...."
    A lot of the DECA/MRV testing was done by members who setup their networks like you.
    I on the other hand was using "simple" DHCP and hadn't had my wireless network active. This gave me "bulletproof" performance.
    Then DECA/MRV went national and we started having posts about receivers dropping off line.
    When I activated my wireless network [same router] all of a sudden "AH!! I now see what problems they were having".
    Changed over to "true static" and I'm now back to my bulletproof DECA/MRV.
    Had "we all" been less geeks than we are, "this problem" would have shown up in testing, hopefully to have been addressed before this went national.
     
  9. RunnerFL

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    You have a very valid point there, and I agree.
     
  10. azarby

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    I believe that this DHCP problem was reported in testing, as i know I was one of several that could only make our system work with static IPs. As to what became of the issue report is beyond my sphere of knowledge. I set up the static IPs during the testing and it has been that way ever since. Not one problem of losing connectivity on MRV, both direct wired , hybrid (half DECA half direct wired ) and full DECA.
     
  11. E91

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    Not that it means so much, but this is cut and pasted from my router's setup:




    DIRECTV-HR24-24570D98 192.168.1.50 Connected Static IP
    DIRECTV-HR24-24540BAB 192.168.1.51 Connected Static IP
     
  12. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Well it doesn't really matter what a router says it is. The point is it's not static if the router assigns the IP, even if it assigns the IP every time. It's only static if you set the IP on the device and not involve the router at all for the assignment.
     
  13. The Merg

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    True. I believe people just interchangeably use the phrase "static DHCP" for "DHCP Reservation" or "Reserved DHCP".

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  14. adamson

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    Still going strong with my Netgear CGD24G, modem gateway. Unsupported MRV and not one failure or receiver falling off the network. Like I said I bet it would be just as reliable with DECA. So this just blows holes in all these analytical observations. So I firmly believe the issues fall on what routing device you are using. Question is how are issues people are having going to get resolved correctly and when. For those who have their receivers falling off the network, I would find a routing device that works, and that challenge is over for me. I have tested a few newer consumer routers and they cannot do MRV period. It just seems to me the routing devices today just refuse to play nice with DECA or wired MRV, like you want it, we have another solution...pay up for a somewhat commercial device if not that in itself. Anybody wanting a device like mine they cannot be purchased retail, they are still available on e-bay new in box for $63.00. Its a all in one advanced cable modem gateway/wireless.
     
  15. Richierich

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    Well, I Reported this problem and HDTVFAN0001 told me to set them up as Static IP Addresses so I changed to what I thought was True Static IP Addresses by using Reserved DHCP List and that has worked for me even though a very knowledgeable Poster who knows alot about routers and wireless networks informed me that even though my "IP Address" wasn't changing but being Reassigned as the exact same IP Address every time it still had to be polled and renegotiated as a Lease and that wasn't really the Best Way to do it.

    I still have it set up as DHCP Reservation and it works great but if I had to do it all over again I would make it a True Static IP Address outside of the DHCP Range.
     
  16. The Merg

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    While I don't disagree that the router being used comes somewhat into play in getting MRV to work, there is something with how the DirecTV receivers handle DHCP that is not working right. If DHCP works without issue until you hook up a receiver and only the receiver has an issue with dropping off the network, then something in that path is not working right. That fact that it is resolved once the user switches to static IP, narrows it down to an issue with DHCP.

    Now where that issue is occuring is the question. Is the router not handling the DHCP lease request correctly from the receiver, is the DHCP renewal getting lost on the DECA cloud, is the receiver not handling the request correctly? I can't answer that question for you.

    And to expect your low-tech, basic user to go out and purchase a specific router just for use with MRV is not going to happen. People already have their networks set up and some are using Wireless-N, whereas your router is only Wireless-G. DirecTV needs to figure out why DHCP is not working correctly with their receivers and get that corrected. In the meantime, we have provided a work-around that resolves the issue and gets the user up and running with no additional cost.

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  17. Barry in Conyers

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    My WRT54G works perfectly for MRV, D*oD and TVApps with either DECA or Ethernet using either DHCP or static addressing. I have never had a receiver "fall off the network". My network clients change frequently, so DHCP is less hassle.

    Just my experience and opinion, YMMV.
     
  18. The Merg

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    BTW, I have a Linksys WRT160N wireless router that I got for under $30 that works perfectly with MRV and I do not use static IP addressing.

    Some work and some don't.

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  19. Richierich

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    I had the WRT54G and it didn't work flawlessly but would drop DVRs off from time to time but my WRT610N Router works better and since I went to DHCP Reservations I have had Zero Problems.
     
  20. The Merg

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    My point exactly. My $30 router works just as good as your $120 router. So, it is not that all consumer routers are bad. However, you do get dual-band with your router and I do not. :(

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