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Multi-Room Viewing and Static IP Addresses - Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by The Merg, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. Richierich

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    And I was told that my problem was that it was a "G" Speed Router and that "N" Speed would help so I bought the WRT610N and paid alot for it and it works great but only after I went to DHCP Reservations.

    I also have 4 WGA600N Wireless Gaming Adapters that I will sell for cheap if anyone needs them. :lol:
     
  2. The Merg

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    Which makes this issue even more difficult to resolve. Why did your WRT54G router not work well with DECA, while Barry's did when you guys had the same router? It could be that you had different versions of the router and one version works better than another. If that's the case, then it is possible that different versions of the Netgear modem/router might have the same issue.

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  3. Steve

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    Also could have been a location issue in Rich's set-up and not Barry's. E.g., "single-channel" G in Rich's set-up may have had intermittent connectivity issues, while "dual-channel" N now provides him a more robust, continuous connection. Just a thought.
     
  4. Richierich

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    Also, HDTVFAN0001 told me to Update the Version of the Router's Software so I did that and still the 54G didn't cut the mustard so I got the WRT610N Router and then after switching to DHCP Reservation List everything seemed to work alot better without losing DVRs but still had some Glitches so when a change came along to Upgrade to DECA/SWM I jumped at it along with adding 3 HR24-500s and I haven't looked back.

    My Setup Now is Truly Flawless and I am one Happy Camper.

    It was like having a baby going thru months of birth pains trying to get it working right but now it does and I am Grateful.
     
  5. Richierich

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    I still have my WRT54G Router so I guess I could find out what version it is so we could compare that information.

    I just believe that Dual Path "N" Speed works better in most cases but I know of several who had "G" Routers that worked just fine.

    There are alot of environmental factors that come into Play here so I am just very Happy I got the DECA/SWM HD Upgrade Package and now everything is Great.
     
  6. bobcamp1

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    I didn't realize you wanted the installers to set up the router. That's not going to work. And not many customers can configure their router. I thought you were putting together a thread that would stick to the top of this forum, so that people having trouble could try to figure out what to do on their own (or have a geek friend or relative help them).

    That's what I get for reading this thread while watching NFL Replay at the same time. :grin:
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    Just reading all the latest posts shows exactly what our problems are.

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    feels changing to a specific router is the best option. He had an earlier thread asking for which routers to use. I have a 2Wire and at the time it was working flawlessly [without the wireless network], so I would have suggested "everyone" get a 2Wire.

    I've worked with others with a 2Wire that had their DECA hardwired [my exact setup at the time] who had problems. I found while they had DECA hardwired, they also had a fairly active wireless network too. I activated my wireless network and started seeing similar problems.

    I helped someone earlier this week with a linksys router that was constantly dropping off receivers on their hardwired DECA. They changed to static outside the DHCP pool and have not had a problem since.

    Reading more of the latest posts show the same mixed results. One doesn't have an issue with a router, while another did.

    Since no one had problems before adding MRV, why is it so hard for some to believe the source of the problem lies in the DirecTV receivers? :confused:

    Remove the router from the equation, and MRV/DECA works flawlessly. Add the router into the equation and we get mixed results.

    Sure one could look at the router's firmware as being the problem not handling the receiver's request correctly. This would require every marker of routers to conform to DirecTV's requests. This just seems as ridiculous as asking every customer to use only certain routers.

    MRV needs to be modified/improved to work with what customers have, and not change customers to work with MRV.

    Currently changing to static IPs is a work-a-round, but not one that is reasonable for all DirecTV customers, CSRs, and installers/techs.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    This thread morphed from "that thread" into a discussion thread.
    No installer should go into a customer's router.
    If an installer could make changes in the receiver to work with the router, this seems feasible, but as we're finding out, there isn't a "one thing fits all" for them to do.
     
  9. E91

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    I think you may be misunderstanding what we are all doing. We set the IP address on the HR24 itself, through the advanced network menu, and we use an address that is outside the DHCP of the device. The router is not involved in the assignment.
     
  10. The Merg

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    I believe, and Rich can correct me if I'm wrong, but MRV was still hardwired although it was connected via the G-Router. That router has since been replaced with the WRT610N, but MRV is still performed via hardwire and not wireless.

    But, those that are using the Wireless-G routers are still hardwired for use of MRV, correct? I'm not sure there are many people out there using a Wireless-G router to use MRV in a wireless setup. I did it for a while and it was just able to handle SD content. I don't think I could have successfully used it for HD content.

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  11. The Merg

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    Here it is...

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=185713

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  12. adamson

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    Not using wireless for MRV, hardwired completely. I tried getting away with wireless on one tv...no go so I had the cat 5 tele line terminated and outlet rewired. The modem gateway I have is wireless G. My HR's and H24 are static outside the dhcp range although for me they work fine without static ip's or address reservation. The issue at hand for people really needs a good look and it will be interesting how this gets resolved.

    I said this before and maybe somebody will take me serious. Directv should develop a router like the AM21 fix. I see vizio now has their own router for streaming, blu ray players etc. I wonder how theirs works.
     
  13. The Merg

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    How is developing a router like the AM21?

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  14. adamson

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    I know the AM21 is not a router...it was an addition as in QUICK FIX for the no antenna tuner issue.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    I just see this as a can of worms.
    While the AM-21 I don't think of as a "quick fix", but merely an option for customers that needed OTA, AND a cost savings for those that don't need OTA.
    For DirecTV to go into the router market, would require "not one router" but a whole line of routers for all the types of broadband out there.
     
  16. The Merg

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    Sorry, I was asking how creating a router was like creating the AM21.

    The AM21 was not a quick fix for the receivers not having OTA built-in. DirecTV purposely removed the OTA tuner from receivers as a cost-saving move. In order to still provide service of OTA to those that needed it, they created the AM21. I would say it was a long and thought out process (save money on production of receiver and create income on sale of external OTA tuner).

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  17. carguy238

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    Hey guys, I have been following ths thread closely and just wanted to check in here. I am more of the average user. Most of the people posting in this thread are much more knowledgeable about computers and networking than I am. Quoting Veryoldschool's post

    "I've worked with others with a 2Wire that had their DECA hardwired [my exact setup at the time] who had problems. I found while they had DECA hardwired, they also had a fairly active wireless network too.

    This is me that VOS was helping. I tried everything to get my 2wire to behave without success. This includes static IP addresses outside my DHCP range. This did not improve my situation. I still lost receivers every two days.

    I have connected a second router, a Netgear WRG614NA that was included with a previous computer purchase. This cost me nothing as this was sitting on my shelf unopened. This is connected to my 2wire by DHCP and the only thing on this router is my five receivers. After a few days I did have some drop offs. I have since changed to static IP's and so far everything has been running very well.

    My thought on this is that I needed to isolate my receivers from the rest of my network.
    VOS did not reccomend this, it was an experiment and I had nothing to loose. I am sure that this sounds like a somewhat convoluted fix but again SO FAR this is working and after struggling with this for several months I was willing to try just about anything. I am not reccomending that anyone else go this route I just wanted to update everyone on my situatuion and what appears to have worked for me.
     
  18. Richierich

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    I had two DVRs Hardwired and 4 more Wireless operating with WGA600Ns (hence the hint that I had 4 for sale). I had more problems with the Wireless Connected DVRs than the ones that were hardwired leading me to believe that it has something to do with DHCP's Reassignment of Leases so that led me to Assigning Static IP Addresses via DHCP Reservations even though later I learned that this method was not Truly Static.
     
  19. RunnerFL

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    I completely understand what you are doing... However my point, that you quoted, is that there is no such thing as "Static DHCP". If, as you say, it has nothing to do with the router then why did you respond to what I said by saying "...from my router's setup"?
     
  20. RunnerFL

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    Then you'd probably wind up with a router that wouldn't work with customer's ISPs. This is a huge can of worms...
     

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