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Multi-Room Viewing and Static IP Addresses - Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by The Merg, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Since I always try to "connect the dots", here's what I'm coming up with:
    Your 2Wire has a lot of wireless traffic and this has caused you to not have the exact same results as I'm having with my 2Wire.
    You've isolated your MRV from your 2Wire/wireless router with your Netgear, which isn't/doesn't have any wireless traffic. It sounds like you've even needed to change the receivers to having them static, but have not needed to modify the netgear's DHCP pool, to exclude the receiver IPs.
     
  2. The Merg

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    Generally you only have one router on a network acting as a DHCP server. So, in this case, the Netgear would not be set up for DHCP and assignments would still be coming from the 2Wire. So setting up static IP addresses would just need to take into account the DHCP range on the 2Wire.

    - Merg
     
  3. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    We'll need for carguy238 to answer this, "but" the netgear being connected to the 2Wire, doesn't mean it was disabled as a DHCP server. I know I told him to check that the DNS on the netgear was what was on the 2Wire, which I think came up without making any changes.

    Now maybe this is wrong but:
    AT&T supplies IP to the 2Wire, the 2Wire supplies local IPs. The netgear picks up its IP off the 2Wire [as it would from a modem] and then supplies IPs to anything connected to it.
    Now, a second router can be configured to not be an DHCP server, but does it have to be?
     
  4. carguy238

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    Hi guys, when I connected the Netgear it was using a 10.0.0.X range where the 2wire is using 192.168.1.XXX I really did not do anything else with it. I thought that maybe It may have been a good thing that the addresses were completely different. When I did have a problem with drop offs after the first couple of days I just went into the receiver's network setup and changed the Netgear 10.0.0.X to 10.0.0.XX being outside the Netgear's DHCP range. Hope I have addressed the question.
     
  5. dsw2112

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    A router does not need to be a DHCP server regardless of whether it's the 1'st, 2nd, etc.
     
  6. E91

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    I think this is starting to get into an unproductive direction.

    Anything that has a connection to the internet in my house, whether wired or wireless, shows up when I pull up the router's setup screen.

    However, like everybody else here, I set up static IPs outside the range of the DHCP using the HR24's menus. It wasn't a "DHCP reservation" since it was assigned via DHCP at all.

    In any case, sounds like everybody here knows what we are talking about, so whether we call it "static IPs is not really all that important. The main thing is the DVRs need to have an fixed IP address outside the range of the DHCP.
     
  7. Barry in Conyers

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    My system is working fine using DHCP, so (1) everybody here is not using static IP's and (2) DVR's do not need to have a fixed IP address outside the range of the DHCP.

    Just my experience, YMMV.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    I don't think anybody has said that using static IPs is "a must", but that if you're having problems, that it should resolve them.
    "If it ain't broke", don't try to fix it. :lol:
     
  9. E91

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    Fair enough. You are not the only one on these boards who has had a similar experience. So, clearly my statement was too strong. MANY of us are using fixed IP addresses outside the range of DHCP.

    Just out of curiosity, Barry, would up mind telling us a bit about your setup?
     
  10. E91

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    Yup, but Barry was right to point out that my statement was far too strong. In fact, before I started to have issues, I was also doing fine with DHCP.
     
  11. RunnerFL

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    Ugh, nevermind.... I should no better than to chime in on a thread that covers what I actually do for a living...
     
  12. E91

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    Nah, as pretty much is always the case when I've seen you chime in, you were being helpful as hell. I always find your comments useful, and its quite clear that you've forgotten more about networks than I'll ever learn.

    So, please don't take offense, I was just trying to be clear about exactly what we had done to get things working.

    Either way, know that your input is very much appreciated.

    Anyway, I apologize if it seemed like I was discounting what you were saying. That wasn't my intent.
     
  13. Barry in Conyers

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    My system layout is shown by the attached pdf file.

    Everything is self-installed and I think the MRV status is "unsupported". Phy Levels are 42 for the HR-24's and 24 for the H24 (longer coax run). Phy Rate Mesh values are between 249 and 253 on all three boxes.

    MRV, D*oD and TVApps all work fine with no network drop-offs using either DECA or Ethernet. I have not tried MediaShare or DirecTV2PC.

    The WRT54G (a router, 5-port switch and wireless access point in a single enclosure) firmware is version 4.20.7. There is a later firmware version (4.21.1), but there is nothing in it that I need. DHCP starts at 192.168.1.101 and 12 DHCP clients are allowed. DHCP lease time is 24 hours and the DirecTV boxes keep the same IP addresses unless I reset the router. UPnP, IPSec, PPTP and port forwarding are disabled. LT2P is enabled so TVApps will initialize following a receiver restart. I use Wifi (G only), but it has nothing to do with the DirecTV part of my network.

    The WRT54G and it's settings are pretty mundane, so I doubt that is why DHCP works for me. My system is all Hx24 and maybe that matters. One possible factor is that all of my coax runs from the splitter to the receivers are "clean" (no PI's, no ICK's, etc.). Another is that my cable modem, router, 3Com switch and all receivers are on UPS's with automatic voltage regulation (AVR).

    If anyone can think of other factors that might matter, please feel free to ask. It is important for DHCP to work; neither the DirecTV installation or tech support systems are capable of handling anything else.
     
  14. jlangner

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    Thanks all. This thread helped me. I had called Direct TV and all they told me was to reset the network connection to default and reconnect if it happened. I got tired of doing this every couple of days. No problems since I st it up static. Too bad DTV's customer support doesn't suggest this ;)
     
  15. joed32

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    I'm sure that I'm not the only sub who doesn't know anything about IP addresses or how to set them up or what all of those numbers mean. Probably a large majority of them don't. Having CSRs that don't know telling customers that don't know would be like the blind leading the blind. If knowing how to set all of this up is a pre-requisite for using MRV then it will never fly with the general public. That being said mine works great on an ethernet set up. I just can't use VOD without messing it up. I can use VOD when I need to, I just have to pull that wire out of the router and reset everything when I'm done. I'm happy with it though.
     
  16. Nov 4, 2010 #156 of 393
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    Sorry if this has already been answered (I scanned the thread and couldn't find it):
    As far as I know, I have never configured my D* boxes as static, but they do not show up when I go into my router (Linksys WRT54GX2) utility and display the DHCP Client addresses. When I go into the Setup screens for the D* boxes, they all have IP addresses that are within the range of the IP addresses for DHCP. What does this mean?

    A possibly related question: Recently, I have started having to reset my router due to all of my networked devices (D*, laptop and desktop computers) losing their internet connections. Is this possibly related to the discussion in this thread, or is it more likely that my router is getting ready to die on me?
     
  17. Nov 4, 2010 #157 of 393
    dsw2112

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    Your D* receivers have DHCP IP's. What kind of router? What's hardwired, what's wireless? Can you draw a diagram of your setup? Many have had problems with the D* receivers "dropping" from the network (likely due to DHCP lease issues) and assigning them static IP's can help greatly. Since you have problems with the entire network it's important to know if there's anything else at play; hence the above questions...
     
  18. Nov 4, 2010 #158 of 393
    veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If your receivers are working fine with MRV, then more than likely this thread/topic has no use to you.
    Back when I didn't have MRV, and downloaded a lot of torrents, I would have router problems where I needed to reset/reboot my router.
     
  19. Nov 4, 2010 #159 of 393
    The Merg

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    Not necessarily. It is possible that when the receivers were set up, they were set up with static IP addresses, but the addresses picked are within the DHCP range. If the receivers are not being shown on the DHCP client list on the router, they are most likely not set up for DHCP.

    To make sure they are back to DHCP, reset the network setup and then perform the automatic network setup.

    - Merg
     
  20. Nov 5, 2010 #160 of 393
    dsw2112

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    It's possible, but not likely (the OP mentioned not having done it.) An "easier" way to check is system setup -> info & test -> more system info

    Scroll down until "IP address" is displayed. If it says something like "192.168.1.101 (static)" then you'll know for sure ;)
     

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