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Multiple Genie Units?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Bartman94, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. The Merg

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    Both static and dynamic IPs have worked equally well/poorly in my experience. Guess it would also depend on one's router; one might be favored over the other by a bit.


    Exactly. The biggest issue with setting static IP addresses is that it will mask issues that come up with actually connecting to the network. Since the devices are using static IPs and not obtaining them from the router, if there is an issue with connectivity to the router, it might not be seen right away or be apparent that the issue is connectivity to the router. Also, if you have multiple devices that communicate with each other and there is a connectivity issue with the router, it might be even more masked since those devices might still be able to communicate with each other if they are on the same "circuit".


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  2. TXD16

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    Judging by the original post, apparently not (keep in mind that we may not all be quite so intelligent, educated, articulate, experienced, nor humble as you).
     
  3. peds48

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    When I said "they" I meant DirecTV....

    "they" are aware that some folks want two or more Genies, I am sure when is possible it will be available. I just don't see the reason to email the "higher ups"
     
  4. Drucifer

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    But they're keeping the why rather secret.
     
  5. The Merg

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    No, they're not. There are interoperability issues when there are two Genies and clients mixed into a system. It's been stated before that this is the main issue with two Genies on one account.

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  6. TXD16

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    "The front line CSR that answers the phone will not do anything with this info..."

    Although not your reply, this is why. It's called the "squeaky-wheel" approach. It works, even with large corporations.
     
  7. Drucifer

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    But they are blocking two Genies to customers without Clients.
     
  8. dishinitout

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    Exactly. The biggest issue with setting static IP addresses is that it will mask issues that come up with actually connecting to the network. Since the devices are using static IPs and not obtaining them from the router, if there is an issue with connectivity to the router, it might not be seen right away or be apparent that the issue is connectivity to the router. Also, if you have multiple devices that communicate with each other and there is a connectivity issue with the router, it might be even more masked since those devices might still be able to communicate with each other if they are on the same "circuit".


    Correct me if I'm wrong then....but based on this you advocate using DHCP because it makes the issue a bigger issue and thus easier to notice?! I'd take static IPs all day long if it means the receivers will always find each other and sometimes have lesser seen issues with Internet connectivity with on demand etc. to me that is a MUCH better scenario than having the receivers loose connectivity with each other AND loosing Internet functions. I understand wanting to see the issues that may be there but I'd rather have the scenario that results in more features functioning even when broken...

    Please correct me if I read that wrong but it makes me want to set all boxes to static...
     
  9. The Merg

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    But they are blocking two Genies to customers without Clients.


    Because what's to say that those customers won't add clients at a later time. Then when it doesn't work correctly they'll complain that DirecTV is putting out non-working equipment.


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  10. The Merg

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    Correct me if I'm wrong then....but based on this you advocate using DHCP because it makes the issue a bigger issue and thus easier to notice?! I'd take static IPs all day long if it means the receivers will always find each other and sometimes have lesser seen issues with Internet connectivity with on demand etc. to me that is a MUCH better scenario than having the receivers loose connectivity with each other AND loosing Internet functions. I understand wanting to see the issues that may be there but I'd rather have the scenario that results in more features functioning even when broken...

    Please correct me if I read that wrong but it makes me want to set all boxes to static...


    Sorry. I wasn't saying that static IPs are wrong to use. I was just pointing out why some people don't like to use them. Personally, I use DHCP Reservations as that way I can easily see what all my device IPs are supposed to be. I also like knowing immediately when I have a network issue. As I mentioned, static IPs can hide the fact that there is a network issue. However, if like in your situation, you are not too concerned about Internet connectivity or connecting to the rest of your network (like for GenieGo or the iPad app) if an issue comes up, static IPs will work just fine. I also like the ability to change the IPs around if necessary if I reorganize my network and if I used static IPs I would need to touch each device as opposed to just going into my router setup.


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  11. peds48

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    and not to mention "user error". Not saying that this is your case, but some folks feel "adventurous" and decides to go this route without the proper knowledge. DHCP works for 98% of folks
     
  12. dishinitout

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    Merg/Peds... Both responses make sense.

    Merg- I'd just prefer that when there is an issue it affects as little as possible and in this case keeps the most used feature of most people (MRV) operational.
     
  13. The Merg

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    Merg/Peds... Both responses make sense.

    Merg- I'd just prefer that when there is an issue it affects as little as possible and in this case keeps the most used feature of most people (MRV) operational.


    I can definitely understand that.


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  14. inkahauts

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    Honestly if you are having major issues one thing I suggest is disconnecting from the net in the first palce and just run deca for a while and see what happens. Easy way to narrow down where a problem is starting from.

    And I dont recall which it was but I read a thread recently and static was the issue it appears but as merg and others say both can cause or not cause issues. Just as turning upnp on or off can help too sometimes.
     
  15. Drucifer

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    Because I'm not stupid.
     
  16. Geekzilla

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    I have an HR34, (2) H25's and several HR20/HR24's. If I buy an HR44 from SolidSignal will I be allowed to activate it since I don't have C31's, or am I reading too much into the answer?
     
  17. dishinitout

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    I have an HR34, (2) H25's and several HR20/HR24's. If I buy an HR44 from SolidSignal will I be allowed to activate it since I don't have C31's, or am I reading too much into the answer?


    No only one Genie per account, no matter how acquired. Mine although in same house are on separate accounts (and please no questions about why and no it's not fishy both accounts are tied to this address). And the other account I referenced has been that way since the near day one of the HR34s.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    :)

    That's funny. But I think that the overwhelming majority would disagree with your sentiment on this. I'd bet for the vast majority of people with genies, and probably even the vast majority that would want two or more genies, they could find a reason to have at least one genine mini. That sixth TV in the kitchen that has little space, or the bedroom where they don't want any noise. In fact how many people who love the top end cutting edge would love to have that one wireless mini genie client to use outside at the poolside or something.
     
  19. PK6301

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    Here is a thought..It might be off the wall, but here it is.. There are what 12 million + subs to Directv.. Now the HR34 has been out for 1 1/2 years and the HR44 for about 3 months...I would figure about 9 million would want to upgrade to a Genie, some are waiting until their 2 year upgrade time is ( I am ) .. There is not enough units to go around at this time, with new subs everyday, and upgrades..

    We have become a materialistic society where we want more and more. We have Great Equipment, Sit back, Relax, And Enjoy..

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  20. TheRatPatrol

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    Yet there are several people on here that have 2 Genies that work just fine together.

    Can't you tell the client which Genie you want it to read?

    Dish allows for two Hoppers and their Joeys seem to work with them.
     

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