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My Genie Upgrade. Not!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by VaJim, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Jul 25, 2013 #61 of 115
    VaJim

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    Yes. I can do 2 weeks standing on my head. And if its still not available I'll just reschedule again. I was glad to hear my slimline in its current location is fine


    One thing I'm still confused is how we use the word 'tuner'. How is it different from 'receiver'?
     
  2. Jul 25, 2013 #62 of 115
    twilburn

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    Every receiver has 2 tuners. This is why you can watch 1 show while recording another, or record 2 shows at a time.
     
  3. Jul 25, 2013 #63 of 115
    HoTat2

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    Actually every DVR IRD (Integrated Receiver Decoder) box has two satellite tuners except the Genie/server which has 5. All non-DVR IRDs have one tuner.

    SWIM sees the aggregate number of tuners which is not necessarily equal to the number of IRDs.
     
  4. Jul 25, 2013 #64 of 115
    Bill Broderick

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    A SWM LNB supports 8 tuners. That means that you can connect four DVR's (which each contain two tuners) or eight non-DVR receivers (each of which only have one tuner in them), one Genie, one DVR and one non-DVR receiver (5 tuners, 2 tuners, 1 tuner respectively) or any combination of receivers where the number of tuners inside all of those receivers add up to 8 or less.
     
  5. Jul 25, 2013 #65 of 115
    inkahauts

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    Guys there is no reason to install a swim8 when they can give him a swim lnb. If he ever goes over 8 they can hook up a 16. Till then a lnb one is just what he needs. And they are less expensive for dtv and require less space for him physically.
     
  6. Jul 25, 2013 #66 of 115
    jporter12

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    Cheaper? Looking at Solidsignal.com it's about $0 cheaper for the SWiM LNB, compared to the SWiM 8 multiswitch.
     
  7. Jul 26, 2013 #67 of 115
    peds48

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    Because "Slimline" refers to the reflector not LNB!
     
  8. Jul 26, 2013 #68 of 115
    peds48

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    and installing a SWM LNB is just DirecTV policy.
     
  9. Jul 26, 2013 #69 of 115
    VaJim

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    [SIZE=medium]Thanks for all the good info…[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]I do have another (can you believe it) question and I apologize if this has been coved before.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]I currently have 3 receivers. 2 – HR21-100 and 1 older standard receiver (non-recorder). If I keep one of the HR21-100’s and move it to the non-HD TV (JVC digital) using RCA plugs, would it be a part of the genie and the mini in the other room (bedroom)?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]My plan is at some point, (possibly by Christmas) to upgrade the JVC set to HD. I understand that if I wait that long and then want to get a mini I would have to pay for it and possibly the installation..?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]What if I change my upgrade order now set for August 8th and ask for 2 minis instead of 1. Can I hook a mini to the non-HD (JVC digital) set?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Just trying to plan for the best way to go about the possible upgrade for the non-HD set.[/SIZE]
     
  10. Jul 26, 2013 #70 of 115
    carl6

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    Personally, I would keep both of the HR21's, and get fewer clients. But you can certainly do exactly what you are proposing.
     
  11. Jul 26, 2013 #71 of 115
    peds48

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    Yes, I agree with Carl. you (I would) keep the HR21 and they be part of the WHDVR. you can share the Genie and HDDVRs recordings among the DVRs. Basically you would have 3 DVRs with one unified playlist
     
  12. Jul 26, 2013 #72 of 115
    Laxguy

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    You should have all the wiring done to all locations you'll want for the foreseeable future to avoid a possible future install fee. I'd keep one DVR and have the one Genie client (mini!) myself, for a total of seven tuners...... Diff. strokes!
     
  13. Jul 26, 2013 #73 of 115
    peds48

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    You should have all the wiring done to all locations you'll want for the foreseeable future to avoid a possible future install fee. I'd keep one DVR and have the one Genie client (mini!) myself, for a total of seven tuners...... Diff. strokes!


    of course, this is something that an installer would not do unless is compensated "on the side" by the customer
     
  14. Jul 26, 2013 #74 of 115
    VaJim

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    Thanks again for the great ideas and support...

    So this the way I think my setup will look:

    Living Room - Genie (HR44)
    bedroom - mini
    other room - HR21-100 running the JVC (non-HD/digital) until HD upgrade.

    This would mean I would deactivate and possible send back to Directv - one HR21-100 (I don't think they want it) and the standard receiver (I doube they want that one either)
     
  15. Jul 26, 2013 #75 of 115
    peds48

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    if the set up is being installed by a tech, and the WO is accurate, he will be taking those receivers
     
  16. Jul 26, 2013 #76 of 115
    VaJim

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    ...with the above setup...would the HR21-100 be a part of the Genie 'network'? Meaning, would it have access to all the recorded programs performed by the other 2 machines or would it only have access to the programs that reside on its harddrive, but yet still have Internet access..?
     
  17. Jul 26, 2013 #77 of 115
    Bill Broderick

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    Yes. The HR21 would be part of the Whole Home network (it's not a Genie network). Any SWM capable receiver, DVR, client (or RVU capable TV) will be able to see and play programs recorded on the Genie or any other DVR.
     
  18. Jul 26, 2013 #78 of 115
    VaJim

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    Thanks Bill...I think I'm set....is it August 8th..yet?
     
  19. Jul 26, 2013 #79 of 115
    VaJim

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    dang it....another brain pop.....so if the hr21-100 will allow me to see/share programs across the genie and the mini, is there an advantage to keeping the hr21-100 rather than getting a mini instead...?
     
  20. Jul 26, 2013 #80 of 115
    peds48

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    You would have two independent tuners at the HR21 location, instead of tying up the Genie tuners when that location is being used
     

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