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my HR21 suddenly went from 118 degrees to 77 ~ 80 degrees?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by bluemoose, Jan 26, 2008.

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  1. bluemoose

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    I frequently monitor the temps in both of my HR21s. (one big reason is that
    I took out the original hard drives and installed 1TB drives inside both)

    The temp has always been hovering between 117 and 119, after an hour or
    two of use. (the room temp is always maintained at 66 degrees, because I
    like it cold)

    Yesterday, I suddently noticed that one of the HR21 showed 77 degrees...
    up to 80 degrees..... after 3 hours of use. I tried it again today, still
    in the same range...

    Is the temp sensor inside that HR21 kaputt? :confused:

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. dtrell

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    did you purchase those HR21s for full price???? i dont think D* will take kindly to you opening and modifying one of the boxes they own....

    and AFAIK, it uses the temp sensor inside the hard drive, so your sensor may have gone bad.
     
  3. poppo

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    :rolleyes: :nono2:

    At least this part was useful.

    Yes, the temp sensor apparently is in the drive. Since I disconnected the internal drives in both of my leased units because I felt like it the temp reads 32 degrees which one would assume is a conversion from Celsius and thus no drive =0 C or 32 F
     
  4. frederic1943

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    They don't have to worry about it unless they wanted to quit DirecTV or return the receivers. If they put the original drives back in they probably wouldn't be charged the $470 for a non-return.
     
  5. Carl Spock

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    bluemoose, does it seem like the unit is running the same temperature as always? The change you are reading would be readily apparent. I'd trust you and your experience more than a sensor, especially on a modified unit.

    It's also nice to see your mother posting in this thread.
     
  6. bluemoose

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    good point... I just felt the top and rear of the HR21 in question. It's no warmer
    than ther other HR21(or my other HR20).... guess it's fine...

    still the temp readin has now been stuck at 77 degrees since this morning....
    maybe I'll leave it unplugged tonight and see what happens tomorrow... :)

    :)
     
  7. EXTREMUM

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    This is true, but kiss your warranty / protection plan coverage goodbye on that receiver, once the seal is broken.
     
  8. Stuart Sweet

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    A reminder, if you open your DVR you are voiding your warranty, violating your lease agreement and DIRECTV's policies.

    Also, it's been said before that the temp sensor is in the drive assembly.
     
  9. liverpool

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    All you have to do is plead ignorance. The boxes will have been through to many people prior to installation and in transit back to them they cannot prove you opened the box.
     
  10. LVKeith

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    I just installed an esata drive (Antec MX-1, Seagate 750GB) and my temps dropped to 77. So the sensor is definitely on the internal hard drive.

    Keith
     
  11. bluemoose

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    My HR20 does has a warranty seal on it, but both of my HR21s don't. I received the
    HR21s from DirecTV new last month. The boxes were unopened/sealed.

    This is why I only opened the HR21s to put in new hard drives, but not on the HR20. :)

    Come to think of it, are you saying that all HD DVRs are supposed to have warranty
    seals on the back? :confused:
     
  12. EXTREMUM

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    Yes, and my HR21 has one on the back/lower left corner. Once the seals are missing or broken while activated and/or then deactivated, DirecTV will consider these receivers as tampered in the leeser's care. If the receiver and a seal was missing or broken out of the box (never activated on your account), you're entitled to exchange the receiver, at no penalty.

    Frankly, this is common sense for any equipment, with manufacturer warranties. It doesn't matter if you fully own the receiver or not. If it breaks, after tampering with the seal, responsibility falls on you 100%. Also, if you return LEASED equipment tampered, (working or not) you're at risk of paying for the unit in-full. I'm not sure if DirecTV allows tampered equipment to pass thru the remanufacturing line.
     
  13. Xaa

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    It's also a federal crime to remove the tag from your mattress. I wouldn't worry about it. :lol:
     
  14. EXTREMUM

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    Yeah, I'll never understand that one. :confused:
     
  15. GT200

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    :lol: Its a federal crime for the retailer to remove the tag of the mattress ...not the consumer
     
  16. apexmi

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    Many have no seal. My Hr20 came out of the box with no seal whatsoever
     
  17. Xaa

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    I know, I was just trying to bring light to how unintimidating it is to violate DirecTv's lease agreement. They've got me shaking in my boots. :lol:
     
  18. rjf

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    isn't being charged $470 for opening the box basiclly the same as buying one new and owning it? i have no plans on opening either of mine, but if they ever disable the esata feature i'll have to rethink that.

    i've got an esata on one hr20 but not on the other and i've got ext fans venting both units. my internal temps are exactly the same at 117. maybe i don't check often enough, but i would've thought having an ext drive would've dropped it a few degrees at least.
     
  19. ccr1958

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    don't tell anyone but i have a 500GB in one of mine/DirecTvs'
     
  20. poppo

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    First of all, it is quite simple to remove the seal without breaking it, Secondly, do you really think someone at the DirecTV repair depot actually takes the time (or really cares) to check the seals? As long as the unit has all of the parts and was not obviously modified I really doubt anyone is going to call the DirecTV 'broken tamper seal hotline'.

    I don't know why some people feel the need to constantly spread FUD about this sort of stuff. If someone wants to open their unit, that's their choice. It's that simple.
     
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