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My new Smartcard

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by geoff, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Oct 12, 2008 #61 of 187
    Bill R

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    Why? From what I have heard the new cards will be going out for about the next 5 months or so. Generally, channel 998 shows up just a few weeks before the card comes in the mail but I do know people that got their new card BEFORE channel 998 showed up.

    There really isn't any need to worry until you start getting popups saying that you need to put in a new smart card. When you see that popup you also see a special number to call to check on your new card.
     
  2. Oct 14, 2008 #62 of 187
    Galaxie6411

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    Got my red and white Envelope today, had 2 cards. One was for my 622, which has no current card, the other for my 301. the 622 replaced the 301 and I have never used it since but I got a new card for it anyway. The reboot happens as soon a you slide the card all the way in and it only took mine 2-3 minutes. A normal boot takes a good 5+ normally with my 622.

    One good thing is I have the ROO number for my 301 now, I couldn't get it before because my remote won't talk to it. I am curious if my 301 will work if I hook it up though. I would love to have it in the Garage.
     
  3. Oct 14, 2008 #63 of 187
    Jim5506

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    If it is not subscribed, you will get NASA and a couple of other FTA channels only.
     
  4. Oct 14, 2008 #64 of 187
    P Smith

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    and the R00xxxx number printed on white label - look at rear side.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2008 #65 of 187
    Jim5506

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    I have 4 active receivers and one inactive 301, but no new cards as of today.
     
  6. Oct 14, 2008 #66 of 187
    P Smith

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    if you repeat your phrase above as a mantra each hour, Dish will send them to you soon :D
     
  7. Oct 14, 2008 #67 of 187
    dbconsultant

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    Got my purple card today. Installed it, everything back up and normal after. I never saw the "successful install" screen, it just rebooted and started back up. I checked the info and I have the DNASP number and DshH02.

    After, I thought, "Gee, wonder what the demo on channel 998 looks like?" So I looked for it but no 998 on my all channel guide. Good thing I didn't need it!

    So what are these cards for anyway?
     
  8. Oct 14, 2008 #68 of 187
    P Smith

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    That's the thread about - start from post#6.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2008 #69 of 187
    James Long

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    Didn't you receive the instruction sheet? :)
    As part of our normal security process, the security system in your DISH Network receiver(s) will expire within 2 WEEKS of the arrival of these instructions an the attached smart card(s). This security system allows you to enjoy DISH Network programming, and these new smart cards will update this system to allow you to continue to receive this programming.

    BTW: I got mine today as well. And now my "homebrew" EA setup works (signals from "72" are viewable). :)


    The funniest part about the upgrade ... on the instruction sheet there is a special website listed: http://www.dishnetwork.com/smartcard - that site requires your account number and a "Smart Card PIN" found on the instruction sheet that came with the card. The first FAQ: "Q: What if I have not yet received my new smart cards?" ... My question, how do you read the FAQ unless you HAVE received your smart cards with the PIN? :D

    (BTW: The FAQ answer is: "DISH Network is sending new smart cards to our subscribers over the next several months. Some newer model receivers may not require an update, but if you have a receiver that will need a new smart card it will be mailed to you within the next few months. If you are getting messages on your TV stating you need to replace your smart cards please call us at 1-888-xxx-xxxx. If you are not getting these on-screen messages, you do not need to replace your smart cards at this time." - Special number redacted as it is part of the message one will see if you get the smart card error and posting it here is likely to just spawn a lot of calls from people who have nothing to worry about. Please, wait for the cards or the error!)
     
  10. Oct 15, 2008 #70 of 187
    neilo

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    I was wondering this as well, it appears that
    I got this from http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-13-2006-88831.asp when I did a google search.
     
  11. Oct 15, 2008 #71 of 187
    James Long

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    Close enough - the key thought is that the card and the receiver work together to receive the protected signals being broadcast via satellite. The new card is just updating that protection.

    While there is probably a more technical answer it isn't needed here. We're not a hacking forum.
     
  12. Oct 15, 2008 #72 of 187
    Ken Green

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    My ViP612 did not require a card. This ViP612 already has DN241 built on to the board.

    I don't know that this applies to all ViP612's. I received mine about two months after their release.
     
  13. Oct 15, 2008 #73 of 187
    phrelin

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    Mine also has DN241.

    I also just checked my recent replacement 722, it said the same thing. Then I looked behind door #1 and there was a card already in it.:HappyGree
     
  14. Oct 15, 2008 #74 of 187
    P Smith

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    dbconsultant

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    See all that information had me confused! :lol:

    I couldn't figure out if the cards are a security thing (looking for people using Dish illegally), or if the cards themselves were just being secured, or if they were adding some new thing to my receiver that they couldn't download, or what!

    We figured it was the first thing - looking for people getting Dish illegally.
     
  16. Oct 16, 2008 #76 of 187
    Bill R

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    DISH isn't really "looking" for people getting DISH illegally they are just putting in a better security system so that those stealing it now won't be able to steal it in the future.

    I don't know how bad DISH's problem is but DirecTV had the same problem years ago and rolled out new cards that has virtually stopped their problem. At one time they estimated that over 3 million people were getting their service illegally. This is DISH's second attempt to stop the crooks. They rolled out the Nagra 2 cards several years ago and they were "compromised" within several months. Hopefully they have a better system (Nagra 3) this time.

    By the way, the affiliate of the vendor of the encryption system (Kudelski) is paying the costs for most of the replacement program.
     
  17. Oct 16, 2008 #77 of 187
    P Smith

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    Actually its affilate - Nagravision.
     
  18. Oct 16, 2008 #78 of 187
    dbconsultant

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    That's basically what I meant.
     
  19. Oct 16, 2008 #79 of 187
    n0qcu

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    Dont't forget that DISH is also a part owner.
     
  20. Oct 16, 2008 #80 of 187
    P Smith

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    Yeah, Echostar+Kudelski=NagraStar, ie encryption/decryption, coders/decoders, ECM/EMM, etc.
     

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