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My SWM8 issue - 'Errors found on Both Tuners'

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mitgrad, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. mitgrad

    mitgrad New Member

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    I set up my SWM8 this weekend, and everything seems to be working fine. All three of my DVRs (two HR20s and one HR22) all appear to be working fine.

    However, I forgot to change over my HR-22 from SINGLE tuner mode to DUAL. When I went to do that tonight and went back through Satellite setup, I got an error I didn't see on any of my DVRs when I first set up the SWM-8...it read "Errors found on both tuners. Check your installation and re-test." There's also a table that basically indicates that the 99 and 103 satellites can't be seen.

    I've attached a picture of exactly what I'm seeing to this thread.

    Just making sure I had my HR22 set up correctly, I went to the two HR20 boxes I also have connected to the SWM8. I re-ran Satellite Setup on both of these and, on both, I got the exact same warning message.

    The weird part of all of this is that, despite this warning, everything *seems* to be working correctly on all three of these DVRs.

    So, I guess my question is: Does this warning message necessarily indicate a failure condition? My guess is that it does (otherwise they wouldn't be displaying it, and potentially causing someone to call tech support). If so, any idea what could be wrong with my setup?

    So, as for my setup, I have:
    - Slimline 5LNB
    - SWM8
    - One 1x2 splitter attached to the SWM-1 port
    - One 1x2 splitter attached to the SWM-2 port

    On the splitter connected to the SWM-1 port, I have two HR20 systems connected. On the splitter connected to the SWM-2 port, I have one HR22 connected, and a 75-ohm terminator on the empty port. Both splitters are 2-2150MHz splitters.

    I also have all three Legacy ports attached to older, "legacy" boxes.

    Anyway...any insight into this warning message (and its implications) are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    -Sonny
     

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  2. litzdog911

    litzdog911 Well-Known Member

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    What are your signal readings on each satellite?

    Please post back with your signal readings for each satellite's transponders (and both tuners if applicable). You'll find these readings under "Menu" -> "Setup" -> "System Setup" -> Satellite -> "View Signal Strength".

    Fill in your readings for each satellite and tuner using these examples. A properly aligned dish will show 80-90s on most of the relevant transponders (although some will be low or zero):


    Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
    [Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    25-32 # # # # # # # #

    Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
    [A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º until 2009]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA #
    9-16 NA # NA # NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
    [Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA # # #
    25-32 # # # # # # # #

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    [Note: these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(c)) [or 103º(b)]
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
     
  3. mitgrad

    mitgrad New Member

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    Here are the signal strengths I'm seeing:

    Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
    [Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
    1-8 96 93 95 0 93 97 91 98
    9-16 92 94 90 100 91 98 92 98
    17-24 95 0 92 100 92 98 95 97
    25-32 95 96 95 87 95 98 94 99

    Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
    [A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º until 2009]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA 92
    9-16 NA 88 NA 92 NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
    [Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA 100 0 98
    25-32 50 100 100 100 0 100 0 100

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s))
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 0
    17-24 84 96 0 0 0 0 0 0
    [Note: these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c))
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 67 77 68 79 64 76 68 78
    9-16 64 76 67 77 63 77 NA NA
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s))
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 82 33
    17-24 83 74 0 50 46 72 82 81
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(c))
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 74 73 74 71 73 71 73 69
    9-16 73 71 72 70 71 72 NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (9 total at SWM)
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 99 99 98 0 100 94 99 95
    9-16 95 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
     
  4. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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  5. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Indeed, your 99(c) and 103(c) levels are both pretty low - you'll get signal and be able to watch in clear weather but you're likely to suffer a high degree of rain fade. A tweak to your dish alignment (provided you know what you're doing) should fix that pretty easily. I bet that will make that error screen in Satellite Setup go away too.
     
  6. evan_s

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    Where do you have the Power inserter hooked up? Assuming it's past one of the splitters make sure it's on a power passing leg if they are only single power passing splitters.
     
  7. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    IIRC, for an SWM8 it also must be on SWM1.

    Mike
     
  8. mitgrad

    mitgrad New Member

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    I'll definitely have to look at re-aligning my dish. I haven't messed with it since Directv installed it last year, but we've had some serious wind since then...so, it wouldn't surprise me if it's been blown out of alignment.

    To answer the question about the location of the splitter & PI: I have the power output of the power inserter connected directly to the SMW1/PWR port of the SWM8. The 1x2 splitter is then connected to the IRD port of the power inserter. My setup looks pretty much identical to the one depicted here: swm8.com/3-4DVR-SWM12-2SPLIT.pdf (sorry, I had to truncate the URL since I have fewer than 5 posts...).

    The only difference is that I also have all three of my Legacy ports connected to Legacy tuners.
     
  9. mitgrad

    mitgrad New Member

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    Just wanted to give an update on this: It looks like the original error message I was getting was definitely the result of bad alignment. After spending about 20 minutes fine-tuning my dish (and facing my fear of heights), I got all of the satellites showing a 90+ signal.

    Thanks for all of the help (especially the suggestions on how to properly align my dish)!
     

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