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Native Resolution Settings

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by traderfjp, Jan 4, 2007.

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  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Amen
     
  2. gusmahler

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    Fox and ABC/ESPN are 720p.

    All other HD channels on D* are 1080i.

    Is that correct?
     
  3. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Are you asking about local channels [ABC & FOX] or national network [ESPN]?
    Locals would be different, ESPN is 720P [I believe] & Discovery HD, HDNET are 1080i.
     
  4. gusmahler

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    I thought the ABC and Fox locals are 720p.

    The other locals are 1080i.

    What about HBO, TNT, and the Fox Sports locals?
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    Locals would depend on the station [which wouldn't be the same for everyone]
    D* send most HD in 1080i.
    Fox Sports [I'm guessing] would be like ESPN as fast moving images seem to be better with 720P [I'm told].
    If I wanted to know what a HD channel was: I would go into setup & set both 720P & 1080i, then native "on". Then I would tune to the channel and see which light on the front panel was lit. Far right is 1080 & second to the right is 720.
     
  6. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Yes, ABC and Fox are 720p.
    CBS and NBC are 1080i.

    ESPN/ESPN2 are 720p.
    Discovery, HDNets, HBO and Showtime are 1080i.
    I'm not sure about TNTHD.
     
  7. john18

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    I believe TNT HD is 1080i.
     
  8. mganga

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    i totally don't know what that means, but i want it.
     
  9. richlife

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    First, I need to see a picture.
     
  10. JCO

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    Its NOT techno-babble, that what idiots call what they dont understand. Trying a bunch of stupid settings with unknown program material ist the way a HACK operates. Take for example the recommendation to set your box to output 720 all the time when you have a 1080P set, that is just plain STUPID as you cant ever get 1080P resolution ( sharpest picture available with HDTV for you idiots who cant understand that) when 1080i signals are cross converted to 720P. Secondly,
    the only way you can even see the improvement of 1080 resolution over 720 resolution is with the very best program material and if your not watching that at the time you do these stupid "ad hoc" try everything tests, you might FALSELY conclude that 720P looks just as good as 1080 resolution when if fact later when you do get a really really good 1080 signal it wont.
     
  11. hasan

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    You have the last word. Welcome to it.:)

    (God we can only hope it's the last word:D )
     
  12. JCO

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    Are you retarded or what? This isnt "minutia", this is VERY BASIC STUFF like format & display resolutions and format and display frame rates. If you set your box to anything other than native, you need to know what the hell you are doing because its possible to make big mistakes that degrade either frame rates or resolution for no reason. Native is the best bet for rookies, and if you want to tell people to do anthing other than native you should first know what the hell you are talking about and how it works , not just call it "techno-babble" and tell them to try everthing using an unknown, spur of the moment entertainment program to tell whats best because it can give bad results in the long run if done that way if the program material is
    not the right type or state of the art when doing these settings like that.
     
  13. hasan

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    Enjoy, and try to stop calling people names. It is unseemly and doesn't bolster your posts. Now, take the last word, like a nice boy and be on your way.
     
  14. mganga

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    so...should i use native?
     
  15. JCO

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    If you would stop calling people "techno-babblers" when in fact they are trying to educate any possible people willing to learn what they dont know you wont get
    called names back in reply. I think the word hypocrite might be in order here, I
    never initiate these personal attacks, only respond to them in kind.
     
  16. hasan

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    There ya, go, you've had the last word, now run along.
     
  17. JCO

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    Do you know for sure the frame rate and resolution capabilities of your display? If not, I would recommend you use native and let the set do any conversions as necessary. If you do, post them if you want any recommendations from me or anyone else. You have to know what type of display you actually have before you can logically set the box
    to anything other than native without loss.
     
  18. TDLA

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    If my TV is only 720p, then should I just set my HD20 to 720 and dont' touch it again?
     
  19. BubblePuppy

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    Did you really have to insult people's intelligence to make your point?:nono2:
     
  20. JCO

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    Yes that would be a very logical setting to try, that or native. Native might be better with 1080i broadcasts if your set cross converts 1080i>720P better than the box does, but be sure you have a really good test signal/program with a lot of action when you compare so the deinterlacer gets a good workout in both cases. If you are sure there is no visible difference with the box set at 720P all the time, then use that as you wont have to resync everytime the broadcast format changes....If you get better visible results with the box on native with 1080i broadcasts, then use that if you dont mind the resync time it takes when changing broadcast formats. Dont worry about
    480i/p formats, they easily scale to 720P with virtually no loss so the box or set can do that without any problems.
     
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