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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by gusmahler, Jul 27, 2012.
Which would be more profitable to them.. how?
BBC's feeds are NOT available outside of the UK. If you are outside of the UK and viewing BBC feeds you are viewing an illegal bootleg feed.
(The BBC offers highlights and select programming outside of the UK but not their live feeds.)
Could be more popular then their flawed tape delay nonsense. You've yet to prove otherwise.
False. Not bootlegged. Not illegal.
Per the BBC's website, their live feeds are NOT available outside of the UK.
I understand there are services that bootleg the content, but that does not make it legal.
Now, can we get back to hating on NBC's Olympic coverage?
Damn, that's A LOT of hours. I had to record hundreds of hours in 2004 during grad school for my lead professor, who's had an ongoing study of gender descriptors during Olympic coverage. Each of us (her advised students) were responsible for a specific channel and I was stuck with NBC. Ugh bad memories of doing "b*tch work" of a lowly graduate student. I'm glad to not be doing it anymore.
Please don't play Internet lawyer. Not illegal. Not bootlegged.
LOL!! specially ESPN, they are the ones who lost the bid against NBC and they will spoil the hell out of these games as retaliation.
Ha, Internet Lawyer.
I'd also like to get back to Torrent Links and stream links.
And Since USA Net is also an NBC channel, is Monday Night RAW off for 2 weeks also? We'll have to go to the SKY Sports downloads.
Raw is still on. I haven't seen any Olympics on USA, and don't believe they have any.
The following is from BBC’s website (Link).
3.2 How you may NOT use BBC Online Services
3.2.1 If you are outside the UK
You may not access, view and/or listen to certain parts of BBC Content (such as video or live television services) using BBC Online Services if you are outside the UK, although you may, in accordance with the Terms, access and view bbc.co.uk or other websites and listen to some (but not all) BBC radio content. The types of BBC Content that may be available outside the UK will usually depend on the BBC's agreements with the persons who own rights in such content.As you can clearly see viewing BBC video or live TV is a violation of their Terms of Service. DBSTalk doesn’t now allow discussion involving violating any TOS so this part of the discussion is over. Nor will there be any discussion off torrenting.
To everyone, please get back to the topic.
Primetime ratings are off to a good start,wow, NBC must be doing something great in their primetime coverage.
This actually reminds me of Part 8 of a summer blockbuster PG-13 movie that kicks off to the most profitable movie ever, but really, the movie is worth a crap. But people cant wait for the next part because it's a gonna be wow! and will blow you away!
I can't wait for NBC primetime tonight, the magnificent 5 will blow me away!
You have no idea how I am accessing it or from where. I have no problem of you don't want something (even something perfectly on the level) being discussed, but don't accuse me of doing something illegal. Please and thank you.
I don't care how you are accessing it. Discussion of violating BBC's TOS, i.e. viewing their video outside of the UK, stops now. Please do not bring it up again.
What's your evidence that it could be more popular.. Twitter? Hey NBC, why don't you give this a try, you only have a billion dollars invested! How would you like me to prove it, anyway? Should I find some stats that irrefutably prove that more people are in front of their televisions in the evening than during the afternoon? Or that if you took the same event (such as NFL football) and moved it from broadcast to cable that the ratings are going to drop considerably, and not just because not everyone has cable/satellite?
You continue to believe that network research is wrong and that these folks are all idiots for buying into it. And your support of that ideal is flimsy at best. Do you really think they haven't learned anything in 30 years when every network before them in this country has done the same thing? Do you really expect a company investing a billion dollars in something to take a chance on "could be" when the numbers are indicating otherwise?
Yes, the sarcasm detector is working, I get it.
Ratings are going to drop off over the course of the next 2 weeks. They always do. But that's more owing to the fact that most of the gymnastics and swimming is in the first week while track & field and diving lack name brand starts. Besides, how many other events out there hold people's attention for 2 1/2 straight weeks. You think the NFL would be as popular as it is if they played every day/night? For NBC to draw the audiences they get in the middle of the summer when most people aren't watching TV is impressive, and it'll still be impressive next week.
What is your evidence that it couldn't be? I believe I asked you first, if you review the thread.
Well, I'm sure you're going to dispute it all like you seem to do with everyone else's knowledge of the business of television (and what do I know, I only work in sports television), but here goes...
More people are watching television in the evening than in the afternoon. This isn't a factor of what's on, it's about availability. No event is going to drive people to their TV sets in the afternoon enough over the course of 2 weeks that you could even try to get more viewers in the afternoon than in primetime. If you take a show like, say, American Idol and put it during the daytime, it's as much of a guarantee as you could get that ratings would drop. The share might improve, but the ratings would go down.
How about the NCAA Tournament? That has coverage daytime and at night. The new format is only 2 years old, but the evening slots have always drawn better than the afternoon. I think that's enough of a sampling to make a point there.
How about the West coast? Most of those markets did as good, if not better than their East coast counterparts in 2008 and 2010 when coverage was live on the East coast, but not out West. Tells you something about how many folks will watch live vs. delayed.
And then of course, the most obvious night 1 of Beijing vs. night 1 of London. Almost the exact same lineup of people and events.. Phelps, May-Treanor and Walsh in beach volleyball, qualifying in gymnastics. Yet the taped show this time around drew more viewers than the live version from 4 years ago?
So yea, I can already sense you typing "none of this proves anything." NBC has invested billions of dollars in the Olympics over the years. Until the economy crashed, it was a moneymaker, so don't point to Vancouver and this as proof it's not working anymore.
Your turn now. Play NBC executive, not disgruntled fan, and explain to all of us how they could make the Olympics more popular (and by that, I mean get more people to watch, not fewer people to complain on Twitter).
Again, what is your evidence that it couldn't be? (I don't expect you or anyone else to be able to provide any. Just like you cannot prove anything to the contrary.) Your supposed credentials behind an anonymous Internet forum screen name don't amount to much.