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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by gusmahler, Jul 27, 2012.
No they won't.
I was doing OK until I started watching the Chelsea vs AC Milan game on Espn2. Now I know not to watch Espn and I be OK.
Use the Zoom button to get the scroll off the screen
What exactly is that?
Just don't post scores, results, medal counts, etc, etc.
Now what is on-topic are things like:
- Did they REALLY had to buy Ryan Seacrest from FOX for the Olympics?
- Did you know that NBC cut things out of the Opening Ceremony, such as the tribute to the terrorist victims of the 7-7 attacks?
- What happened to Mary Carillo
- Why is NBC News spoiling all the results in the news show RIGHT BEFORE the Olympics start?
- There should be a page where you can go to to browse athletes profiles and background information WITHOUT seeing the results!
- Still complaining about the 3 hour delay and social media score spoils.
Create a results thread in The OT.
I agree. Because of the time difference, the prime time show has the opportunity to be a 4 to 5 hour recap of all the events of the day. Instead, last night they showed maybe 15 events and 3 hours of junk. I finally just hit record on my DVR and watched something else for an hour. Even then, I still didn't have enough padding to skip all the commercials/fluff and had to switch out to something else 2 more times.
Jumping in here guys to let everyone know is that THIS IS NOW A SPOILER THREAD!!!
You may post results of events. Basically, this thread is self policing so if you don't want to know the results of events before they air, DON'T READ THIS THREAD!
Thank you. Sanity is returned. How do you discuss how badly NBC is covering the Olympics without mentioning specifics. Even the FACT that they skipped parts of the opening ceremonies as in the example in an earlier post is a spoiler.
That is what I was having problems with. It was not just the results of a race or competition. Everything that happens on the broadcast is a spoiler. And making it a forever ban because of DVRs made it impossible to have a discussion at all.
Ratings are in from the first night of competition from the London and I think most of you will be surprised by this (I'm sure NBC execs are)..
NBC Sets New Standard for Olympic Overnight Rating From Non-US Site
That's right sports fans, ratings are UP from Beijing. More people last night's tape-delayed final of Lochte vs. Phelps than watch the first night of Phelps LIVE from Beijing. Again, I have no stake in NBC and whether or not they succeed or fail. And I'm sure some will say here that the ratings don't mean anything because NBC went into the homes of all those people and broke their TV remotes so they couldn't change the channel off NBC. The numbers are what they are. Further proof that people ARE watching the Olympics, even with all the social media and the live streaming and the results that are known to most. So either there's fewer people out there complaining than it would seem, or all those folks decrying NBC's coverage are tuning in. And once again, NBC execs are laughing all the way to the bank.
The 3D broadcast this morning showed a ton of swimming and gymnastics. Absolutely no commentary for swimming. You had to rely on the graphics for all information. Full commentary for gymnastics. I've never minded the event commentary...just the ceremony commentary.
Sounds like the online feed. No commentary at all for the swimming heats. There was commentary for the finals, but it was really dull (as if I were listening to NPR), nowhere near as good as NBC's coverage of the same events last night. I am extremely disappointed with the online coverage. It's as if NBC just slopped something together halfheartedly.
So you've provided proof that NBC holding back information and not showing events live is incorrect. Thanks. Show everything live then make the prime time a highlights show. Works for me and for those criticizing NBC. Opposite of what you have been defending, actually.
On what planet? People tuned in to see the replay. More people tuned in to see this year's replay than watched four years ago. NBC's gamble paid off.
Had they aired the race live at 2:30pm would they have pulled that large of an audience? You can post your opinion but you cannot guarantee that turning primetime into a highlights of things already aired in the US show with no "first run" content would have kept the audience.
That first airing is important. People want to see the race ... they want to see how it went down (not just the score). Once NBC airs that race everyone else can air the highlights ... aired live that would have put it out to other US media seven hours in advance of NBC's prime time airing. Embargoing the video until NBC aired it gives them the chance to show it first (and recoup some of the $1.18 billion spent for the right to do so).
First run is important ... it is what the broadcasters pay for, it is what the affiliates pay for and it is what the audience watches - even if they might know the result via other media. Airing it during prime time first was the right decision for NBC.
I never said what NBC is doing is right (well, it's right for NBC apparently). But this is fairly conclusive proof that it's working. How many people have been saying here that this strategy won't work, that it's going to ruin the events for people and no one will watch if it's on tape and NBC has to show everything live because of social media and blah blah blah.
Not to repeat all of James' post here, but everyone seems so convinced that NBC would be better off showing key events live. Based on these ratings, why does everyone continue to assume that's true? What NBC is doing is working. It may not be right, but it's working. So why should they change course when the programming strategy that so many folks out there say needs to be dead and buried is producing audiences as big as they got last night.
Key part of that is "for NBC," but based on that I agree about 75000%
What I see are some folks going well out of their way to defend NBC, rather than the bests interests of the viewers. Good ratings for NBC simply means that they will screw American viewers during the next Olympics as well.
Good ratings for NBC means American viewers will apparently welcome them continuing to screw them over at the next Olympics. I've made this argument before.. let's say another network had the Olympics and they did it "right" but fewer people were watching. Who are they really serving then? If more people are going to consume a supposedly lousy product than they would a better product, why should the company producing the product want to change how they're making it? NBC isn't the first company to make a profit at their consumers' expense, but folks need to stop expecting NBC to pander to their whims if it's going to cost them money. If best interests of the viewers meant more money and higher ratings, I have no doubt they'd go in that direction. What these numbers prove is that what NBC is doing is drawing in viewers, no matter what they think of the coverage. And if I'm NBC, that's all that should matter.
Prove to us that another network doing it right wouldn't bring in bigger ratings. Your claim is that NBC should be credited with the ratings, rather than the product.
The fact is that there will not be a single dramatic medal moment for US television viewers in this Olympics. NBC is to blame for that. Others can defend that all they want.