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NBC reportedly ready to retire Jay Leno

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by fluffybear, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. Mar 4, 2013 #21 of 193
    Drucifer

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    NY Hudson...
    Leno is the biggest attacker of NBC ineptness and I can't imagine the constant attacks go over too well, when the big wigs get together in the conference room.

    Instead of trying to improve their programs, they rather get rid of Leno.
     
  2. Mar 4, 2013 #22 of 193
    Laxguy

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    Er, maybe. But ratings are pretty much indisputable... money talks, nobody walks. It seems almost everyone on NBC is knocking the network.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2013 #23 of 193
    hdtvfan0001

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    For sure.

    Leno has said for many years how much more he enjoys doing standup (he sitll does Vegas gigs regularly) even more than the Tonight Show.

    I suspect this is a favorable 2-way street to bring things to an end.
     
  4. Mar 4, 2013 #24 of 193
    SamC

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    If Carson was a "100" no current performer is more than a 45.

    IMHO,

    Leno - He is just not a very bright person. I really think he does not really get many of the jokes he tells. If they wrote a joke on the cue cards about Secretary of State Fred Thompson, he would read it with the same delivery as now.

    Letterman - Used to be really good, but has grown in the last five to eight years into a one-sided political cheapshot artist. He should understand that Carson did political humor equally at both sides, all in fun, and without an agenda.

    O'Brien - One of those Harvard types that thinks he is oh, so, funny. Isn't.

    Stewert - See Letterman, above, but without the residual talent.

    Kimmel - The next generation's lead guy. Broader appeal than Fallon.

    Fallon - Will do well at 11:30, but not as well as Kimmel. Very urban.
     
  5. Mar 4, 2013 #25 of 193
    SayWhat?

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    Been a very, very long time since I watched broadcast TV at all, let alone late night talk shows. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when I have to shut Dish down at the end of this year.
     
  6. Mar 4, 2013 #26 of 193
    phrelin

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    From Forbes Numbers Don't Lie: NBC Should Replace Jay Leno With Jimmy Fallon Now:
    The issue not being addressed is will the younger audience watch late night broadcast TV? Or will they find other distractions?
     
  7. Mar 4, 2013 #27 of 193
    Laxguy

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    Lordy! Where is taste? It's hard to be pleased with the trend towards crassness in late night TV. It's been downhill since Jack Paar, and accelerating as we near (hopefully we are nearing) the bottom of the pit of boorishness.
     
  8. Mar 4, 2013 #28 of 193
    mreposter

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    What host was it that had a running joke about David Duchovny having a mancrush on him? Those were some crazy bits!
     
  9. Mar 4, 2013 #29 of 193
    spartanstew

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    I never liked Leno, and have never watched Kimmel or OBrien.

    I've been watching Letterman though since 1982. I'll admit, however, that even though I still record them all, I typically only watch about 1 per week (good guest, Jack Hannah, stupid pet/human tricks).
     
  10. Mar 5, 2013 #30 of 193
    Maruuk

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    phrelin makes a good point--how does all this play with the Millennials? This is a creaky and ancient format from 3 generations ago. It comes off like blackface and baggy pants comedians to Millennials. It's overkill on a grand scale, too many guys doing the exact same thing. It's really just a sleeping pill for the over 50 crowd. Millennials are online or texting or doing the nasty or all 3 after 11pm.
     
  11. Mar 5, 2013 #31 of 193
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  12. Mar 6, 2013 #32 of 193
    mreposter

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    Yeah, they're all pretty much recycling the Tonight Show format that's been around for, what, 50 years? I was a bit surprised that Conan didn't try to do something more outside the box when he moved to TBS, but it's just the same old same old.

    Maybe John Stewart is the true alternative.
     
  13. Mar 7, 2013 #33 of 193
    Maruuk

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    I actually know lots of folks who are busy DVRing The Daily Show and Colbert after the 11:00 news. They wouldn't watch one of those lame-ass formulaic talk shows if you stuck a gun to their head.
     
  14. Mar 7, 2013 #34 of 193
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    As I think Mark Evanier pointed out on his blog, whoever is spreading this rumor waited until Leno went on vacation (for a week?) and so couldn't address it right away on his show. The timing suggests this is a negotiation ploy regarding Leno's next contract. I don't watch these shows anymore, and haven't in years; they're just not interesting anymore. Maybe they should bring back the overnight movie.
     
  15. Mar 7, 2013 #35 of 193
    mreposter

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    At 11:30 most viewers want something safe, simple and predictable. They just want to turn off their brains, have a laugh or two and then go to sleep.

    Leno addresses all of those points very well, and increasingly so does David Letterman.
     
  16. Mar 7, 2013 #36 of 193
    dpeters11

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    Further in the rumor mill, replacement for Fallon when he moves to Tonight Show, Howard Stern.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2013 #37 of 193
    Laxguy

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    OMG! The slide into the abyss continues....... I hope the mill is wrong.
     
  18. Mar 7, 2013 #38 of 193
    dpeters11

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    Me as well, though if I close my eyes while hearing him talk, I can pretend its Alan Alda.
     
  19. Mar 7, 2013 #39 of 193
    fluffybear

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    Peachtree...
    and that's an improvement??
     
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    They do sound alike, don't they?
     

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