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NBC skips tribute piece in Olympics Opening Ceremony

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by phrelin, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. Aug 1, 2012 #141 of 154
    anleva

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    NBC serves themselves and their advertisers. Thought we established that already.
     
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    majikmarker

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    Count me as someone who has been extremely fed up with how NBC covers the Olympics (and really all sports) for many years and yet begrudgingly watch during primetime.

    Most of the other networks pull their programs during the Olympics so viewing choices are more limited (even more so than the regular Summertime schedule of reruns). Also, NBC has a "monopoly" on the Olympics. Its not like I can "vote with my remote" and watch on another channel. I'd love to see ABC and ESPN go head to head with NBC and offer an alternative. I think it is a mistake by NBC and other critics to just point at the ratings and assume everything is great and there is no compelling reason to change or update the way they broadcast.

    NBC produces the Games like a reality show. It heavily edits the premiere events, showing only those teams or athletes that finish in the top 3-4, showing routines and outcomes out of order, omitting entire routines, etc, to help build a false sense of drama. I want to see a sporting event not the "Kardashian's".

    For the most part, other countries (like Canada) will take an event like diving and show live, all the dives from all of the competitors, for all of the medal round, on TV (I don't want to watch it on a glitchy website on a small screen).

    Lastly, the number of commercials are oppresive. Without a DVR and the ability to time shift through the primetime coverage, I would be watching way less (if I would watch at all). I have found I need to start watching at least 90 minutes into the evening coverage in order to catch up to "live" TV by the end of the night.
     
  3. Aug 1, 2012 #143 of 154
    Quaker2001

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    They increased streaming and added a lot of cable coverage from Beijing. Certainly there has to be an element of that where they're doing something good for the viewers and not just serving themselves.
     
  4. Aug 1, 2012 #144 of 154
    anleva

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    Yes, that is certainly a step in the right direction, though the execution left a lot to be desired.
     
  5. Aug 1, 2012 #145 of 154
    Quaker2001

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    Won't argue with that, although I've been watching live streaming most of the morning/afternoon and it's been pretty solid (I fully expect it to start crashing any minute now since I've said that)
     
  6. Aug 1, 2012 #146 of 154
    tonyd79

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    As I posted in the other thread, it has improved tremendously.

    But, don't give NBC credit. This is an Olympic thing. Many of the events are just the shared Olympic feed. Since they have sponsors (many commercials plus the banner ads on larger displays, even a small citi bank logo on my iPhone), this is not the goodness of their hearts. They get a free feed and got sponors to pay for the transmission and more. Not one whit of that is NBC's initiative or production, really.
     
  7. Aug 1, 2012 #147 of 154
    phrelin

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    I wouldn't call it a "free" feed when to be the U.S. network eligible get it they had to pay billions.;)
     
  8. Aug 1, 2012 #148 of 154
    Stuart Sweet

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    Unless you know something I don't, we can't be sure how much of the payment was for the streaming feeds and how much was for broadcast.

    Still, without stepping over the line on forum rules, I'll just say that being rich doesn't make you an innovator.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2012 #149 of 154
    phrelin

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    I guess one could say the first second of the first feed cost billions, the rest was "free".:D
     
  10. Aug 1, 2012 #150 of 154
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    So they were supposed to give all that content away for free? They PAID for the rights to be able to offer that content and then, yes, do whatever they want with it. They could have chosen not to offer all this content which is what happened with Beijing and Vancouver when they held certain events back. So yes.. you kinda need to acknowledge NBC is doing more here than they did before, even if they should have been doing it in the first place.

    NBC paid for the rights to air the content, not for what medium to show it in. Media rights deals these day tend to cover all media. Especially in a case like this, it's basically the IOC giving NBC the rights to do whatever they want with that content. That's what the payment was for.. 1 sum giving NBC everything, not a split between TV and live streaming and on demand or whatever else you want to throw out there.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2012 #151 of 154
    James Long

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    The FACT is that the pictures of the people displayed on the in stadium video screens and the BBC broadcast WERE the victims of 7/7 along with others - how is calling that a tribute to the victims "revisionist" - it could be that both interpretations of the segment are correct - it can be a tribute to the victims of 7/7 as well as others who could not be there - the two are not mutually exclusive.
     
  13. Aug 2, 2012 #153 of 154
    James Long

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    But to paint it AS a 7/7 tribute only when they wanted to attack NBC for not airing it? Obscene and insensitive to the real victims of 7/7 and their families.

    One site attacking NBC for not airing the tribute noted that two American soldiers who died this year were pictured on the "wall". 7/7 victims? Hardly.

    And getting away from the anti-NBC angle of the story ... step back to the reviews I linked a couple of posts back. See what people who saw the whole event wrote about the opening ceremony and what they liked (and disliked). Do you see any mention of the (alleged) "7/7 tribute"? Any mention of the tribute at all? Even by one of the many critics quoted?

    It was a tribute to the dead and a dance number dramatizing the struggle between life and death. But it got more press from it's absence than it did from it's presence.
     
  14. Aug 2, 2012 #154 of 154
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    In starting this thread, I partly wanted to keep the discussion of this particular screwup by NBC - and that's what it is in my mind, a screwup - out of the general thread on the Olympics coverage.

    What I was ticked about is that even though NBC made a business decision to pay billions for the rights to Olympic coverage in the U.S., sometimes even those running a multibillion dollar business have to think broader than their normal tunnel vision. One just can't always do whatever one wants because it's their money.

    In this case, they represented Americans regarding a serious British endeavor. It's ok to delay for the time zone difference to allow more Americans to see it. It is rude to cut elements out - it's like getting up in the middle of a live concert and leaving because you're bored. You can do it, you may have a reason to do it, but if the reason doesn't border on life-or-death you don't do it.

    It was worse because it was a tribute to the dead. It was made worse because Bob Costas got to spew on the air about not having a specific moment of silence over the Israeli athletes and coaches who were killed by terrorists 40 years ago. And it was worse because those giving the color commentary hadn't done their homework.

    But mostly it was bad because NBC represented me and I just cannot tolerate rude and stupid. I'm now over it and am enjoying the athletes performances.
     

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