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NBC's Fall Prime Time 10 Hours

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by phrelin, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. mreposter

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    Zucker appears to believe that the days of the all-powerful national TV network are quickly coming to an end. He's going cheap-cheap-cheap on his general programming and then spending his dollars on one of the few things that still pull in big numbers - sports. Leno's ratings may be lower than L&O or other dramas, but it'll make far more money for the network. (Screw the affiliates, he doesn't care about them.)

    The next possible shoe to drop is Saturdays. If he didn't need it to burn off failed shows, he'd probably give that back to the affiliates. In the end, NBC will probably look a lot more like a competitor to the CW than CBS.
     
  2. phrelin

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    In the USA Today article being discussed on another thread, the writer thinks these NBC shows have been or will be renewed for the fall season: Heroes, Law & Order, Law & Order: SVU, The Office, and 30 Rock. If this turns out to be true, the list represents 4 hours out of the 10 available hours. At least one of the remaining six hours will go to Dateline.

    According to the USA report the following shows are "on the bubble": Chuck, Medium, My Name Is Earl, Parks and Recreation, and Southland. The problem is, with only five hours to fill, these shows will be competing against the reality/game show options plus a number of one hour dramas and 30 minute comedies "ordered to pilot" previously, for example:
    • A pilot from Dick Wolf's company (the Law & Order franchise) called Lost and Found, about a female Los Angeles detective (Katee Sackhoff) who clashes with her superiors and is banished to work cases with anonymous victims.
    • A quirky legal drama pilot Legally Mad from David E. Kelley revolving around a woman (Kristin Chenoweth) who takes a job at her father's Chicago law firm.
    • A post-apocalyptic drama pilot Day One from "Heroes" screenwriter Jesse Alexander ("Alias," "Lost").
    Only an idiot would not try Lost and Found given Wolf's success record for NBC and Sackhoff's current popularity. But then NBC is idiotic.

    For reasons known only to NBC, Day One appears to have a heavy commitment despite Heroes "modest" ratings and the dismal failure of the similar sounding Jericho on CBS.

    But NBC has a new chief programmer, Angela Bromstad. So we'll see where it all ends up.
     
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    I tend to agree with this view. With NBCU showing 50% more revenues than the broadcast network, Mr. Zucker sees a paradigm shift occuring, and it looks like he's trying to get out in front of it, rather than be dragged along.

    It's not unlike what newspapers and magazines are trying to do... replace the conventional print and delivery model with an electronic one. Unfortunately, unlike cable, there's no "$ per subscriber + ad revenue" model out there for them. It's just "ad revenue", and the competition for those $$$ is fierce. /steve
     
  4. Doug Brott

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    On that list of bubble shows, I'd like to see Chuck and Southland back (although Southland just "looks" good at this point .. jury is still out) ...

    But I kinda doubt Chuck will make the cut and Southland could easily move to another network .. including HBO or Showtime.
     
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    Lost and Found with Katie S. sounds interesting, and might give us more of a human-interest touch to the typical detective show, since she'll have to explore the lives of the victims more. I've liked Castle so far and this might be another good addition to the DVR list.
     
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    Maybe NBC can just simplify their entire schedule down to three shows. Instead of "Must See TV" their slogan can be "TV For Dummies"

    M-F 8pm - DATELINE!
    M-F 9pm - Law and Order (random version)
    M-F 10am - Jay Leno Show
     
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    I enjoy watching Leno. That said, I think putting his show on opposite CSI Miami/NY on Mondays and Thursdays may be suicide. Also, what's to stop ABC from putting on its best at 10 p.m.?
     
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    Leno at 10am. :lol:
     
  9. phrelin

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    From MarketWatch:
     
  10. mreposter

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    Anybody remember when NBC put Dave Letterman on in the mornings? I loved the show, but it was an absolute disaster.
     
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    I thought his daytime fireworks on July 4th was great - they'd show a shot of the skyline (lots of blue sky w/ a few clouds) and you'd hear the sound of fireworks exploding... :lol:
     
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    I don't think a network will ever dominate like that again. FOX is solid now and we have other networks. There is so much original programming on "cable" stations now,I'm sure this doesn't help. Tivo/DVR has made such an impact too.
     
  13. Steve

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    We still have several NBC shows in our To Do list. Heroes, Medium, L&O:SVU, Life, L&O, Office, 30 Rock, Parks & Rec (maybe not for long), Southland and NBC "by extension", Friday Night Lights and L&O:CI. /steve
     
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    I hope they renew Medium and Life, but it doesn't look good right now. Other than golf on the weekends, and those two shows, I'm not sure I watch anything else on NBC.
     
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    I used to watch Medium, but they lost me when they did that 3-part reporter storyline where Alison ended up in the press and the reporter woman ended up dead. The show had a series of really over the top storylines that just lost all credibility. The shooting at her husband's office, when Manny lost his job... etc, etc.
     
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    I don't know details of the real Allison DuBois's life, but I wondered if there were elements that were from her life in some of those episodes. :shrug:

    Anyway, I'm still watching along with 4 other households in my family.
     
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    Man, NBC is a mess.

    If I were them, I'd scrap Leno and import some other shows to fill up the remaining time. I can think of at least a dozen British, Canadian, or Australian shows that they could get for really cheap.
     
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    I may have posted it as a joke, but if Leno is even halfway successful I bet NBC does eventually strip in programming so it's the same show at 8, dramas a 9 and Leno at 10. They're essentially going to turn NBC into a cable network and then rely on Football and the Olympics to keep the ratings up.

    The one thing that surprises me is that NBC hasn't given Saturdays back to the affiliates. Maybe they're just keeping it around as a dumping ground for failed shows.
     
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    Yep. I was in college at the time and it was a dorm favorite.
     

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